is there a class C that is small enough to not need a toad ?

The general rule of thumb is anything under 22 feet in over-all length. Also the narrower the better, the lower the better. I personally endorse This One for a fully featured rig with practical capacities for water and waste, fuel & propane. The only thing lacking is a permanent bed. It comes with or without a slideout.

I think it is so much better than any straight "B" out there.....and cheaper too. Same or shorter than some "Bs" at 21-2", but you get all the real home stuff. Nothing resembles an airplane bathroom.

yea we have been thinking alot of different things BUT...I think a small C to start would be fine for wife and me and dog :) That way the fuel mileage would be a little better and if it had a slide out we would be fine for room...if we were going south for a month or more I would probably rent a room or house when we got there but still use the C to travel there and back...
Just make it eaiser with the dog i would think...
I may try to go to Camping World tomorrow and look at some..thx for all the good info !

You have to decide where the sweet spot is for parking versus amenities. On one hand, you have the Roadtrek 170 Versatile which can park anywhere except a parking garage. However, you will have to get used to the aisle shower, opening a closet to get to the toilet, and sleeping width-wise. On the other hand comes the 45' DPs that have everything known to man.

If I were getting a "C", I'd probably start out looking at a 24' Nexus, a Sunseeker 2450, Phoenix Cruiser, or a Forest River Solera. If those are too big, there are shorter models as previously mentioned. One Solera plan has a rear slide which is nice to add an island queen, but the downside is that the bed isn't usable when on the road.

First and so far only motorhome we have owned is a 2006 Aspect 26a. One slide, all the things we need with a corner bed. We have never pulled a toad and have not suffered. I think it also depends on the type of travel you do. We are on the move, maybe 2 days most at a park. If we drive out to explore, I just unhook water and electric. So far it's working for us.

Yes and no, depending on your expectations and planned use.

I think my 30-foot, 8-1/2 wide two-slide Itasca fits "drive around w/o a toad easy" and we always traveled that way. As big as it is, it is not as big as a school bus, metro transit, or a refuse collection truck. That's urban areas. Many tourist destinations, people get around inside 45-foot motorcoaches, and where there is tourist traffic, there is coach parking, which might be back-in.

But the motorhome can't go everywhere, for clearance reasons, and it is not always easy to find a place to park it, because it usually needs two standard car spaces, and in width, overflows the spaces. Sometimes I can park it in a single space at the edge of a lot, the 12 feet of rear overhang hanging over the edge.

Down to 24 foot, 21 foot, parking and getting around gets easier, particularly as you go to B+ models less than 8 foot wide. At 21 foot, you are close to the size of a dually, long-bed crew-cab pickup. In some places, parking accommodates that vehicle size, in others the largest spaces are sized more to an 18-19 foot van or SUV being the biggest thing, and under the 80" width that defines "oversize" in most states.

You can get a motorhome in that van size, a B van conversion, but it won't likely have slideouts and it won't have the room of a longer, wider C.

Although I have a towed vehicle (small pickup) and plan to convert a second (sub-compact) for towing, I don't tow on road trips, because it is much more difficult getting around in crowded areas, and finding parking, while towing. I tow when going to a local destination for a week or more, and don't want to move the RV (often a matter of keeping the campsite by occupying it) and want to get around to run errands and take care of business at home.

The amenities you want say C. Especially the slideouts.

I don't tow and my rigs 28'. On the few times I visit a crowded city I will rent a car - other than that I get around fine.

Take a look at the Leisure Travel Van Unity, at 24', at this web site: http://www.leisurevans.com/unity/index.html

It has a slide, corner full sized bed, stand up shower.

Check out Phoenix Cruisers. They build a 2100 as well as a 2350 and 2400. All would suit your needs. They use either Ford or Sprinters. We had a 2350 on the Sprinter chassis and did not tow. We wanted larger (and twin beds) so we traded it in on the Phoenix Cruiser 2551. Now we have a Phoenix Cruiser 2910 and tow a Honda Fit.

Three new PC's in 3 years will tell you what we think of them!

Jerry and Cynthia live in a 24' Class C fulltime... it can be done. Check out their website and watch the video. And they even have a dog!

luberhill...There is not an RV made that is big enough to live in comfortably for months at a time; while being easy to drive. There are significant differences and compromises across designs. From prior posts you appear to be considering everything from a Class B van to a Class A motor-home (or 5th). You need to focus on whats most important to you. This might help...RV selection


A short Class C or B+ is perhaps the best compromise for both living in and ease of driving. Bigger RV will have bigger tanks, storage and living space. Suggest you rent a U-haul box truck for a day ($100); <=26 ft; then decide your comfort level with this size vehicle. IMO, Class C is much easier driving than a 5th wheel.