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Goldencrazy
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Jun 07, 2014

Kelderman

This should spark controversy again. Traded Winnebago 2012 30T for Winnebago 35 G. Both gas. Had every intention of getting a Forza but we didn't find it to meet our needs including ride. So bought the floor plan we love. It has a better ride than 30 T without modification but not what we want especially WI roads that are really in bad shape as we sell out infrastructure for corporate tax breaks. Personally the changes in our taxes have put a bunch of money in our pockets we did not expect so we will add Kelderman to our suspension as we did our 30T. Looking forward to a great ride without getting a DP with tag.
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  • Goldencrazy's avatar
    Goldencrazy
    Explorer
    Jun 07, 2014
    Had it on my trade and now will have installed in Okaloosa as soon as we can schedule. Roads aren't getting better.
  • DanTheRVMan's avatar
    DanTheRVMan
    Explorer
    Jun 07, 2014
    Goldencrazy wrote:
    This should spark controversy again. Traded Winnebago 2012 30T for Winnebago 35 G. Both gas. Had every intention of getting a Forza but we didn't find it to meet our needs including ride. So bought the floor plan we love. It has a better ride than 30 T without modification but not what we want especially WI roads that are really in bad shape as we sell out infrastructure for corporate tax breaks. Personally the changes in our taxes have put a bunch of money in our pockets we did not expect so we will add Kelderman to our suspension as we did our 30T. Looking forward to a great ride without getting a DP with tag.


    "...as we sell out infrastructure for corporate tax breaks."

    USA has highest corporate tax rate of developed countries.

    Glad to hear you can afford air ride for your gasser and glad to hear WI is trying to keep employers a float.
  • Goldencrazy's avatar
    Goldencrazy
    Explorer
    Jun 08, 2014
    Not sure Employer's are afloat. The factories are producing more out of country with only seton headquarters remaking. Money is made in financial markets. If you pay the high corporate taxes you need a new accountant. Infrastructure crumbling will hurt our economy. Cold weather is tough on roads. Poor roads are tough on our RV's.
  • Goldencrazy's avatar
    Goldencrazy
    Explorer
    Jun 08, 2014
    Dan, it wasn't my intention to argue about taxes but we headed that way. My point is that road conditions are increasingly making suspension add ons important to protect passengers and equipment driving up cost of ownership either at front end or at the repair point.
  • DanTheRVMan's avatar
    DanTheRVMan
    Explorer
    Jun 08, 2014
    Goldencrazy wrote:
    Not sure Employer's are afloat. The factories are producing more out of country with only seton headquarters remaking. Money is made in financial markets. If you pay the high corporate taxes you need a new accountant. Infrastructure crumbling will hurt our economy. Cold weather is tough on roads. Poor roads are tough on our RV's.


    I think you are correct lets punish all employers with higher taxes until they all move off shore. :R
  • Goldencrazy's avatar
    Goldencrazy
    Explorer
    Jun 08, 2014
    The Employers that moved in Wi did not go for lower taxes. In fact many were offered special government financing and TIF benefit. Most leave to avoid environmental standards and for cheap labor. Sorry Dan but you are a victim of propaganda not fact. Now let's fix those roads.
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    indyzmike
    Explorer
    Jun 08, 2014
    Goldencrazy, if you have not been in the Milwaukee area lately, you do not know of the billions of dollars being spent on the freeway infrastructure. The Marquette interchange, the Mitchell interchange, and now, the Zoo interchange are being fully rebuilt. Re-decking of the Hoan bridge is in process now too. Once we are done spending it all here, maybe you can have some over there. ;)
    I was through Madison a couple weeks ago. I ran into construction on 94 northbound, and Hwy 19 was closed. I guess you ARE getting some of it.
  • kjbkjb's avatar
    kjbkjb
    Explorer
    Jun 08, 2014
    I did the Kelderman package on my 2011 Coachmen Mirada and was very pleased with the improvement in ride. Now I have a 2014 Tiffin Allegro 36LA and at least for now I am very content with the ride and see no need to go the Kelderman route. I think going from 19.5 inch to 22.5 inch wheels and from a 22K chassis to a 24K chassis made a difference. But if I was seeking ride improvement, Kelderman would be my choice.
  • Goldencrazy's avatar
    Goldencrazy
    Explorer
    Jun 08, 2014
    kjbkjb wrote:
    I did the Kelderman package on my 2011 Coachmen Mirada and was very pleased with the improvement in ride. Now I have a 2014 Tiffin Allegro 36LA and at least for now I am very content with the ride and see no need to go the Kelderman route. I think going from 19.5 inch to 22.5 inch wheels and from a 22K chassis to a 24K chassis made a difference. But if I was seeking ride improvement, Kelderman would be my choice.


    Glad you found a new motorhome and it works. The bigger wheels do make a difference and with the added weight the ride is definitely much better than smaller coaches. I am curious to see how much the improvement will be on a coach that is just OK instead of horrible.

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