looking for owners of 2004-2005 Pace Arrows

JIM BAKKER, you still out there? Just a small post to say thanks for starting this information subject that has helped me and others with a Pace Arrow. Again Thanks.

Reference fumes coming into the rig.

After reading the install papers, I found that there is a seal around the front frame of the refrigerator to the inside wall that seals the exhaust from coming into the rig. I checked the refrigerator and found that the refrigerator had moved 1/4 inch out from the wall, mostly at the bottom and we never noticed it. I have over 20000 miles on this rig and after going back and forth on I-10 and other bad roads it just worked it self away from the wall breaking that seal.

seatec wrote:
Quick question. I am sure i can find it but at what location in my 06 37C can i find the water pump. im going to install a valve kit for winterizing. Anybody know right of the bat what to do about the washing machine and ice maker? Do they have specific instructions. I guess i can RTFM but you might have some tips that the manual doesnt give.

Thank you

Anthony

We let the icemaker run through a few cycles while you have a bottle of antifreeze hooked up to the pump. I think it takes several hours for each cycle and it usually takes 3 cycles. Once it makes pink ice or slush you are finished. We also run the washing machine through a shortened rinse cycle (with no drying) until we can see pink water in the washer drum. Shining a flashlight through the door glass while you are running the cycle helps to see the pink. As soon as you see pink you can shut the cycle off and then force it to spin out. It is a good idea to have one person operating the washer and one person outside watching the bottle of antifreeze. You can use up a whole bottle in the wink of an eye if you are not careful so be sure to start this process with a full bottle. After the spin cycle is over we leave the washer door open for several hours until it is dry.

Hope this helps.

Meme

I have an 04 37C and the pump is in the ist bay just behind the step , up high. I had hoped to put in a valve but there wasn't enough room so I took the line off the pump inlet and put a line on to suck out of the antifreeze container. be sure to open the taps and tun water in the sewr hose bay. washer turn it on and run it until it runs pink. we have our ice maker disconected. bypass water heater. Its all in the book though. Len

Quick question. I am sure i can find it but at what location in my 06 37C can i find the water pump. im going to install a valve kit for winterizing. Anybody know right of the bat what to do about the washing machine and ice maker? Do they have specific instructions. I guess i can RTFM but you might have some tips that the manual doesnt give.

Thank you

Anthony

Sorry Paul I don't recall.
I'll ask tomorrow. I think just the stock wires, with a heavier heat shield (or what ever that metal shield around the plug connection is called). I asked about the "racing" wires but they said they have had good success with the air flow kit. They modify the air flow a bit from WH typical installation.
Larry

runaround
Just wondering, when they replaced your plug wires what did they use?

Paul

Thanks for the heads up Paul.
Right now I'm Stuck in Lodi, Lodi Truck and RV Repair Lodi, Ca. Great Shop. Last time here they replaced the sparkplug wires, for the second time, (27,000 mi.) and installed an air flow kit. They also discovered the A/C compressor was going out. Workhorse authorized the work, they ordered a new one and it's being installed. They have to remove the entire doghouse to get to it so DW and I are hooked up in thier lot tonight so they can finish the job and we can get on to Az. tomorrow.
Anyway back to my point. For a while we have been hearing a high pitch when setting at an idle that sorta, kinda sounds like an alarm or warning buzzer, not unlike the awning alarm. We have looked high and low but we found nada. I asked the tech at Lodi RV what the noise was, Transmission? Fans? Secret alarm? some kind of relay? Without hesitation, he said it was the A/C compressor going out :E (another WH Glich).
What I really like about this shop is good people and no work leaves the shop or the hood is not closed untill a second mechanic checks the work and the service manager takes it for a final test drive. When I set up an appointment they are waiting on me when I get here and they get right to work to get me out. These guys have earned my business. Enough of a plug for Lodi RV.
My point is watch/listen for that faint high pitch from under the dash could be the start of something big.

Part Two
On the way down the interstate we started to smell a strange exhaust odor inside. It got so bad that it set off the CO alarm. We pulled over and open all the windows and tried to figure out what was going on. The only thing was I forgot to turn off the refrigerator and it went to gas. We turned it off and drove for awhile and no fumes. The wife turned the fridge back on gas and the fumes came back. Never had this before but figured it was the way the wind was working, we were driving 60 mph east and we had a heavy headwind (40+) coming from the southeast hitting the outside refrigerator vents just right pushing the fumes inside. At the campground I got a fan and blowing in the refrigerator outside openings with the vent covers off (I did have a few come by wanting to know what I was Doing). The wind from the fan would work its way into the rig at the top of the refrigerator at the control panel between the door and control panel.

I sealed the top and half way down both sides on the outside of the refrigerator just below the propane burner exhaust. It is real tight to get to the bottom part. On the way home we still got a little flumes and I am going to seal the bottom half.

Don't know how long this was going on because we only use the propane setting on the refrigerator a few times. But after thinking back we did get that strange odor in the past (Propane exhaust) and thought it was a car or truck exhaust.

Just got back from a three month trip to southern California and had a few things owners of the 37C and other slide out kitchen models should hear about.

When I was in the high mountains of Southern California I was using an electric space heater. I had it plugged in at the outlet by the kitchen sink. After a few nights the outlet went dead and tripped the GFI. On my 37C the electric goes from the circuit breaker, to bathroom GFI outlet, to outlet in the City water outside compartment, back to a junction box in the wall between the bathroom and kitchen slideout,where it has two wires one to the kitchen outlet and other to the outside compartment by the front door. I put this in because it took me a while to find this wiring trail.

I found that most of the outlets wires are pressed into holding clamps except the outlet in the city water compartment. When I looked at the city water compartment outlet the complete plastic outlet and cover was melted and burned. This outlet was the standard outlet that the wire are secured in place by screws and one worked loose causing a short and small fire. Just luck that it only burnt the plastic outlet. I replaced the outlet and there was enough wire to cut off the burnt part and reconnect the wires.

This got long so I will do part two on next post.

Jim
A friend tired to stay in Ohio during the winter and I was told that the water pipes inside the kitchen slide out froze. The pipes was behind the cabinets next to the outside wall. He was living in it, so there was heat but it must not have gotten to the pipes at that location.

On the 37C we have water pipes running under the kitchen cabinets, under the bathroom sink and the one other place I would really worry about is the pipes in that enclosed area between the shower and fridge. Those pipes are flex pipes both water and sewer that move with the kitchen slideout and no heat can get to the area.

There is always Arizona, no pipe freezing.

Paul