looking for owners of 2004-2005 Pace Arrows

Thanks for the help with the toilet flushing. When we push the pedal it flushes and when we lift it, it does add water. We found instuctions wrapped around the piping while investigating the problem. (We purchased this united used, 204 37C) I wonder if the previous owner was aware of this?

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Thanks to all the postings on the awning problem we were able to get ours fixed. No charge for the awning, but Earnhardt in Avondale, AZ did charge us $337 for labor, much higher than most have paid.

This forum sure is helpful!

Just returned to the US after an extended trip (not with our 37C) and took it out for a short weekend trip. I was wondering if anyone has had any steering modifications made to their 37s. Overall I am satisfied with the RV and I believe that the W24 is the best part of the setup. But the steering is a little loose for my preference. Any recommendations for steering mods?

I have an 06 37c and i can ad water to the bowl by pushing the flush peddle up wiht my foot and the push down to flush. i think this is a dometic china toilet

Parrotguy wrote:
Mel,
Do you have the toilet with the mascerator [sp?] which adds water after pressing the flush button and then forcibly sucks the contents noisely through the mascerator? That is the toilet I have in my '05 36D and the only adjustment I know of is a knob behind the flush button which adjusts the amount of water added to the bowl.

I wish there was a way to add water manually like in our '00 Pace.
Gary

We have experienced the same problem with the awning not dumping water on our '04 37C. I remember the salesman touting the feature when considering the purchase. Funny, when I brought it up with service the first time back, the tech told me that those things don't work and if it were him, he would just bring the awning in every night.

Last weekend we were out with rain in the forecast. I used a bungee card to pull and hold the rear support down in the position it would be in from the water weight. The awning still filled up without dumping.

Another peeve about this awning is having the tube slot to put in lights but having to get the ladder out every time to put them up. We have stopped using our awning lights unless we are some place more than a weekend.

My unit is in the shop for other problems, but I will check these numbers when it gets back.

Now let me vent about the things its in the shop for now.

We bought in August 2004, indoor winter storage both winters, under 12K miles by us.
1) Packing for weekend, the left frontmost basement door would not close. Front hinge tore through. Support rod fought the closing of the door, and clearly contributed to the stress on the hinge as its the one directly on top of the support. This did some damage to the trim molding above until I removed it. Took both of us to get the hatch secure. Quoting the PA 2004 brochure
"Improvements abound! A redesigned front and rear cap, new luggage doors and hinge system"
Dealer said out of warranty, this is my problem. Good Sam Extended Warranty will not cover either.
2)Better half went to remove something from the under bed storage in bedroom, and found the bed platform not square on the bed frame. We removed the bedding and mattress and found the platform had separated from the hinge on the side toward the rear of the coach. When we lifted the platform, the stress from the support rod ripped the platform apart on that side. Like the door, the support rod force would not permit our putting the bed back in place. This platform is constructed of pine 1x4's on the flat, with 2 sheets of luan like laminate glued and stapled to it with solid foam insulation fit into the sandwich. It is obvious the glue failed and then the strength of the piston of the support rod pulled it apart. I had to crawl in the storage area and remove the rod to get it to close, plus remove 3 dozen staples protruding from the damage so they wouldn't rip the mattress. Dealer said out of warranty, this is my problem. Good Sam Extended Warranty will not cover either. Again quoting from brochure Let serenity be your theme tonight. Retire in grand style with Pace Arrow’s queen size bed with pillow top mattress... Serenity my @#$!!

Frankly, I will would not let them fix this back the way that it was originally - if you have 2 adult people sleeping in this platform, this is not going to hold up the way it was constructed - truly a piece of junk. I will replace myself with cabinet grade birch 1/2" plywood.
3) Washing breakfast dishes Sunday morning, turned water on in kitchen sink, the facet head literally flew off the metal hose. Was using city water with my always present pressure regulator at the supply. Dealer said out of warranty, this is my problem. However Good Sam extended warranty is going to cover this.

I called Fleetwood and expecting that since their "...mark of excellence is a pledge of quality." and "Every Pace Arrow is inscribed with the Pace Arrow insignia as a testament to its enduring elegance, character and craftsmanship." , I expected these obvious lapses in quality and craftsmanship would result in some consideration.

This is our 2nd Class A; our previous rig was an '02 Thor Hurricane, it was a nightmare. We thought the higher price tag and at the time reputation of the Pace Arrow would get us in a rig that was well made and reliable. We love the layout and the mechanical platform, but are getting pretty tired of the failures that occur in the coach and it spending more time at the dealer than with me. Is this the standard for RV manufacturers - not caring about quality and workmanship and then crossing their fingers for one year while they and their inept dealers stall you so they can then say tough luck?

Had planned on upgrading again when ready to go fulltime, but don't know if I'm up to putting up with another round of headaches from another unit.

once concern when shimmingin it. wont that put my shocks on the right side at a diffrent place in the stroke and react (although slightly) differently than the left side?

Thanx for the info on the spacers. i might just end up doing that.

Yes, It has a blue sticker on the side of the coach right next to the entranc door saying smomething like Power Platform.

seatec wrote:

I need your help. I recently bought a 06 37c with the ford power platform.

I wasn't aware that the 37C Pace came on the Ford Power Platform???

seatec wrote:

I just recently purchased a 06 37c and we love it. One problem however. When we bought it the coach was leaning towards the passenger side (front only). They dealer said that that was normal and when we loaded her up she would be straight. well. that isnt true. when we are fully loaded and have full gas and potable water she leans at least as much . checked underneath and shimming under leaves is the same on both sides and only the body seems to lean. anybody else have this problem?

My coach also leaned on the passenger side. After checking all around and underneath, could not find a real reason for this problem. I made a trip to a top notch spring place in my area that works on 18 wheelers and buses. He mentioned it was not uncommon to have a coach per week for the same problem. He put some spacers on one side front and back, and now it is about ½ inch difference from one side to the other.

hello folx. great to find a thread abouit nothing but the Pace arrow.
I need your help. I recently bought a 06 37c with the ford power platform.
it has a slight lean towards the passenger side when on level ground. the dealer said it was a weight distribution thing and when i fill up the water tank the lean will be gone. Well, it didnt. the lean was still ther and from what i can tell is is about a 1-2" difference. no lean on the rear wheels that is noticable. looked underneath the coach which btw has billsteins and two spacers each underneath the spring blades. anybody what this is all about? anybody else have a lean towards the pasenger side?

thank you

Anthony

bricot wrote:
For the last sleeper I slept on I cut cedar fence boards (approx 6" wide and around 1/2 to 3/4 thick) to the length that just fit inside the frame (sitting on the lip). I cut 4 of them and spaced them evenly between supports and that helped quite a bit. The boards are light, easy to manuever and store. I will do the same for this bed but will probably get the air dream on top of that for comfort. Don't make the same mistake I made cutting the boards... the frame is different widths at different points, don't measure one spot and cut 4 boards. I numbered them from top to bottom once I recut them.

We first thought about cutting slats like we used in beds years ago, so the cedar fence boards would work the same way. Since we've tried the 3/4" thick plywood, and know that it's too thick I'm hoping the fence boards are 1/2". I know what you mean ..."that the frame is different widths at different points" found that out with the board we have now ... fits good at one end but not on the other. So I will keep that in mind when measuring 'again'. Thanks for the tips!