Michelin 22.5 tires

MRUSA wrote:
The safety standards are MINIMUM standards. Just because all tires meet the minimum doesn’t mean they are all as good as each other. Some brands exceed the minimum standards, ride smoother, quieter, or last longer than others. My Michelins are going on 7 years old and still look like brand new. Not a crack on any of them and the tread looks perfect too. (At 35,000 miles they are hardly used.) They ride great, handle great, and are quiet. I will replace them soon due to age, and the new tires will be Michelins.

Hmm. I don't recall anyone saying that Michelin was not a "Fine" tire. You sound somewhat defensive there. lol. Am I reading you wrong? Believe me, I'd rather have Michelin's all around, but I Know I can get a good product, not "top of the line" for $3-4 thousand less. So that's what I choose. ESPECIALLY if I know that I'll have to replace the tires, because of AGE, before the tread wears out. My Michelins were 6 yrs old and loosing chunks after 18K miles, My rig is Garage kept. I'm not complaining, about them only lasting 18K miles, but after 6 yrs I knew it was time to replace them, especially when I noticed chunks of rubber missing. Michelin's are great if YOU over the life of the tire demand the "Max" or the "most" out of them. But the Average RV'er drives 4000- 4500 miles a yr, and the tires are supposed to be replaced on average every 3-6 yrs (every 12000 to 25000 miles!??!?!? that's not alot for a tire). So you are hardly using them to the "MAX" so why not get something that's "Good," instead of "the Best" or "great?"

Compare the weight of the XZE to other tires in the same size, they weight more. This is because they have sidewalls designed to handle the abuse of delivery and bus drivers, kissing the curb and other items over their usage life cycle.

We had the XZE* in 12R size for our first set of tires on our 40' DP. We lost the outside dual, and the tag on the passenger side due to impact on a fresh/deep/sharp edge pot hole (Would have probably sunk dow to the axle, but I think a VW was at the bottom of the whole!) on Hwy 99 North of Bakersfield. (Raining, in the right lane, and being passed by a convoy of trucks in the left lane, vehicles parked on the shoulder of the road. I saw what I thought was a pot hole, was able to slow down a bit, but took my foot off of the brake once I got the front end around the hole. Not able to do so on the rears:)!) It was a hard enough impact that I drove to the next safe place to pull off, about two miles up, and went out to inspect. I saw a bulge in the outside Dual, but did not see another, I'll say ripple, in the tag until the next day at the RV Park. Broken cord in one, and a slipped cord in the other. The TCI that I stopped at to have it looked over, dismounted both tires for inspection. First the Tire Tech, and about 5 minutes later when the Manager came to take a look stated basically the same thing. I was lucky the impact to the dual did not cause a blowout. It was the Manager said that it was because the XZE had the stronger sidewalls. (Unfortunately, they did not have the tires I needed in stock, and I elected to have them put back on and I kept my speed to 50-55, until I could get to a shop that had two replacements that were young enough to get. Put those on the steers, and moved the old steers to the damaged positions.

I like the XZE. That being said, the current set is the XZA2 in 295/80. Same load range, but quite a bit less weight, and higher efficiency. I went with them, because I was trying to reduce the front end road transfer from expansion joints, pot holes, DOT's, rough roads into the front passenger seats. I like these too.

The XZE*'s were replaced at just under age 7, no major cracking, some lite surface cracks around some of the stampings, along the meaty part of the sidewalls. I'll call them hairline cracks, not the kind that you see when others post pictures of sever cracking in tires.

I also would have zero reservations about using Toyo, Hankook, BF Goodrich tires. I just helped a friend choose new shoes. He went with the XZA2's on the steers, and Hankook AH37 on the rear position.

Lots of choices, best of luck on your decision,
Smitty

My Michelins are 3 years old with 135,000 miles on them will replace them at 150k.

The safety standards are MINIMUM standards. Just because all tires meet the minimum doesn’t mean they are all as good as each other. Some brands exceed the minimum standards, ride smoother, quieter, or last longer than others. My Michelins are going on 7 years old and still look like brand new. Not a crack on any of them and the tread looks perfect too. (At 35,000 miles they are hardly used.) They ride great, handle great, and are quiet. I will replace them soon due to age, and the new tires will be Michelins.

Chainwright wrote:
My coach came with 8 Michelin tires. I just changed out the back 6 with 18 wheeler (bottom of the barrel LOL) tires, at least that's what some would say, they are Iron Man (by hercules) tires mainly for 18 wheelers, but they drives sooo good. My old Michelin's were losing chuncks, but were 6 yrs old. So now I have Michelin's up front and 6 Iron man tires ($1800 out the door) in the back, And I'm Lovin' it. I Never ever had a tire, car, truck or Moho, that didn't last me at least 5 yrs, and that's what I aim for. For me if a tire lasts 4-5 yrs, it did it's job. JMHO.

I prefer truck tires, myself.
You may wish you had the iron men up front as well.
Don't know what you're driving, but doubtful that you'd notice much difference, except in your wallet, of course.

My coach came with 8 Michelin tires. I just changed out the back 6 with 18 wheeler (bottom of the barrel LOL) tires, at least that's what some would say, they are Iron Man (by hercules) tires mainly for 18 wheelers, but they drives sooo good. My old Michelin's were losing chuncks, but were 6 yrs old. So now I have Michelin's up front and 6 Iron man tires ($1800 out the door) in the back, And I'm Lovin' it. I Never ever had a tire, car, truck or Moho, that didn't last me at least 5 yrs, and that's what I aim for. For me if a tire lasts 4-5 yrs, it did it's job. JMHO.

Chainwright wrote:

tropical36 wrote:

badboy368 wrote:
Is anyone using the MICHELIN XZE2+ TIRES? If so, what is your opinion on these particular tires? I am looking to put these on my class A, but curious to see how they are and if they are worth the money.

Why would they be worth that kind of money, when so many other brands that are out there, will do the job, just as well?

I'm sure you know the answer to that.

My son loves basketball. He's pretty good at it too. We are not the richest of folks, so he got "shaq's" or "And 1's," basket ball shoes, 25 dollar and below sneakers. One day I found a pair of Lebron James's on sale, year end sale, I got a pair of $185 shoes for $79. Naturally he loved them and wore them out. lol. But they didn't ware out any quicker than the Shaq's or the And 1s nor did they Feel much different. My son never had any foot problems, whether they were Lebron James', Kyrie Irving's, Shaqs or And 1s. You're buying the biggest name in the industry, so you'll pay for it. Just like Nike or Shaq's, in the sports industry.
All tires MUST/Have to be certified by The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and ALL have to meet certain standards and legalities. The Rest is Marketing.

And you would think that this simple fact, would be easily understood by most anyone. Safety items aren't the same thing, as buying a quality products for other items, like with the coach itself, for example.

Chainwright wrote:

Mile High wrote:

chastho wrote:
I never see anyone mention Continental tires, I install them at less cost and are very good tires.

I would agree, but I just got talked out of them at a tire Dealer that sells them along with Michelin, Bridgestone, and Firestone. He said out of the 4, the Continentals would be his number 4 recommendation for a MH. I was looking at the EcoPlus HS3. His reasoning, and take it for what it is worth from a Dealer, is the Continental was more fickle for care and sensitive to pressures. Some drivers complained that after a 750 mile run the tread on the steer axles would start to show odd wear that forced them to rotate positions to save the tire.

I'm definitely not doubting anything you say or that your tire guy says. But tires that are sold on the U.S. market have to meet certain criteria and standards....By Law. Don't you find it hard to believe that Compared to the competition, Continental would be able to sell such a subpar/problematic tire? Personally I doubt The NHTSA would give their "blessing" to a tire that performed that way, compared to others. JMHO. What do you think?

The US Gov. gave their blessings by requiring it to pass DOT standards and numbering them accordingly.
As for complaints, they're all over the net for most every tire, with Michelin and GY leading the pack.

tropical36 wrote:

badboy368 wrote:
Is anyone using the MICHELIN XZE2+ TIRES? If so, what is your opinion on these particular tires? I am looking to put these on my class A, but curious to see how they are and if they are worth the money.

Why would they be worth that kind of money, when so many other brands that are out there, will do the job, just as well?

I'm sure you know the answer to that.

My son loves basketball. He's pretty good at it too. We are not the richest of folks, so he got "shaq's" or "And 1's," basket ball shoes, 25 dollar and below sneakers. One day I found a pair of Lebron James's on sale, year end sale, I got a pair of $185 shoes for $79. Naturally he loved them and wore them out. lol. But they didn't ware out any quicker than the Shaq's or the And 1s nor did they Feel much different. My son never had any foot problems, whether they were Lebron James', Kyrie Irving's, Shaqs or And 1s. You're buying the biggest name in the industry, so you'll pay for it. Just like Nike or Shaq's, in the sports industry.
All tires MUST/Have to be certified by The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and ALL have to meet certain standards and legalities. The Rest is Marketing.

Mile High wrote:

chastho wrote:
I never see anyone mention Continental tires, I install them at less cost and are very good tires.

I would agree, but I just got talked out of them at a tire Dealer that sells them along with Michelin, Bridgestone, and Firestone. He said out of the 4, the Continentals would be his number 4 recommendation for a MH. I was looking at the EcoPlus HS3. His reasoning, and take it for what it is worth from a Dealer, is the Continental was more fickle for care and sensitive to pressures. Some drivers complained that after a 750 mile run the tread on the steer axles would start to show odd wear that forced them to rotate positions to save the tire.

I'm definitely not doubting anything you say or that your tire guy says. But tires that are sold on the U.S. market have to meet certain criteria and standards....By Law. Don't you find it hard to believe that Compared to the competition, Continental would be able to sell such a subpar/problematic tire? Personally I doubt The NHTSA would give their "blessing" to a tire that performed that way, compared to others. JMHO. What do you think?