Michelin tires M/S vs. M/S2

RVWithTito wrote:
I just replaced all 6 tires and decided NOT to go with Michelins. I researched for a couple months and ended up going with Toyo OPEN COUNTRY H/Ts from Les Schwab Tire Center (all over the northwest).

Here's why: The specs were very similar to the Michelin Ribs I was going to get (steel sidewall, etc). The price was about $100 less per tire. They are in stock at every Les Schwab around the west (very important). Finally, they installed all 6 in less than an hour.

It's already payed off: While heading into Reno last month I got a puncture from a large bolt. I found a Les Schwab only a mile away and they replaced the tire for free in less than an hour. Crisis averted. I made a video about it: http://youtu.be/9RIq70064mo?list=PLIsusUNNN2JZZWLBBZAhHjDEh7wuQ1kiE.

My lesson learned: Go with quality tires you can easily find replacements and service for.

I had Toyo Open Country H/Ts for a time, and they are great tires and great riding tires, but they are not the equivalent of an all-steel casing tire like the Michelin Rib.

Here is a link to their spec sheet that shows the LT225/75R16 HTs have tread belts of 2 Polyester + 2 Steel + 2 Nylon, and sidewall belts of 2 polyester. This is a link through the Wayback Machine as of June, 2014, their current spec sheets do not show the construction.

The weight shows the difference also, Toyo HTs weigh 39 lbs/tire, Ribs weigh 49 lbs/tire.

America's tire in Orange installed 6 new Michelins this morning. No problem.

Had my Michelin LTX MS2 replacements done by America's Tire in Long Beach (Town Center). They changed them in front of their bays using heavy duty jack on wheels. Excellent customer service.

I lucked out and got 6 free M/S 2's to replace the original M/S's. I had previously put M/S 2's on my truck and for my money they just about the best tire out there. The ride is smooth and quiet. The M/S 2's replaced the 20 year old design of the original M/S. The fact that Michelin stood up to the M/S problems and recalled 1.6 million tires no charge says a lot about the quality and integrity of their products.

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I just replaced all 6 tires and decided NOT to go with Michelins. I researched for a couple months and ended up going with Toyo OPEN COUNTRY H/Ts from Les Schwab Tire Center (all over the northwest).

Here's why: The specs were very similar to the Michelin Ribs I was going to get (steel sidewall, etc). The price was about $100 less per tire. They are in stock at every Les Schwab around the west (very important). Finally, they installed all 6 in less than an hour.

It's already payed off: While heading into Reno last month I got a puncture from a large bolt. I found a Les Schwab only a mile away and they replaced the tire for free in less than an hour. Crisis averted. I made a video about it: http://youtu.be/9RIq70064mo?list=PLIsusUNNN2JZZWLBBZAhHjDEh7wuQ1kiE.

My lesson learned: Go with quality tires you can easily find replacements and service for.

When I had my RV tires replaced a year ago, they had a concrete slab behind the building they used. They didn't even think about trying to bring it inside the shop.

BobandShaz wrote:

klutchdust wrote:
One installer said he couldn't break the bead on a load range E tire.

Weenies....Others said they don't have a jack to lift it. Huh?

Discount tire ALWAYS did our class C on the e450.

Discount tire, America's tire out west, is going to do it. Another installer said his machine wasn't new enough.

I had my Michelin tires replaced on the recall in July, at Costco. They did the work outside the building with jacks. I was told they can't do that any more because of new regulations. A new bay will eventually be built to handle it.

That question, My Brother, is Above My Pay Grade...

We had some tire experts, maybe they'll jump in. I'd think the damage to tires would be (worst to least):

1. Hot Dry Desert
2. Hot Humid like Florida
3. Mild Dry
4. Mild Humid
5. Freezing??? Don't know
6. Cool/Dry and Off the Ground

So jd, any difference in the aging process of winter rubber as compared to all season rubber etc...