New purchase Sales Tax

Trust me, when commercial truck and trailer plates are purchased they are done so in order to avoid higher taxes.
That truck or trailer does not have to ever travel in that state of registration.
Maine and Oklahoma trl plates are
Advantageous to own.
Such as an IL. IFTA plate is less than one from IN.
Some trucking companies in FL. Buy only IL plates. Because of tax laws.
When it comes to com. For hire trucks , they pay many various taxes - sales tax is not one of those. Except at the pumps. Which is a deduction.
I don't have a dog in this fight but have noticed that people with opinions about tax avoidance or evasion fall into 3 categories.
Those that have been able to take advantage of the opportunity. (Usually self employed business owners).
Those that paid and were not aware of or able to use service. (Employees)
Those that work for the government in some form, (police, Forrest ranger, teacher, social services, DNR. Etc)
The reasons are obvious and there are always exceptions to the rule.
JMHO

ferndaleflyer wrote:
And what does that have to do with their registration fees and taxes? I see 30 trailers in a lot that never leave the state they are parked in and all have Maine tags.

BobGed is right on. And interstate trucking company are incorporated, and can be incorporated in many states, not just one. And when there is the Commerce Clause in the U.S. Constitution which limits the states control over interstate transportation. And in many states, a trucking company does not have to pay sales tax on Class 8 tractors and trailers involved in interstate transportation. But don't worry, cause the trucking companies have to pay tax for every loaded and empty mile they travel on highways in each state.

ferndaleflyer wrote:
And what does that have to do with their registration fees and taxes? I see 30 trailers in a lot that never leave the state they are parked in and all have Maine tags.

I assume you're replying to my post. It gets complicated, and I've been away from it for a long time, but I believe as long as a company does 80% or more of interstate commerce with their commercial trailers, they are able to get a Maine commercial trailer registration for as little as $20 a year per trailer with no annual inspections, and the ability to license or renew for multiple years in advance.

The tractor that pulls the trailers needs to have what they call Apportioned (Prorate) Plates in each state they operate in. They pay a registration fee for each of those states, and then have to pay either monthly, quarterly or yearly prorated taxes based on the miles driven in each state.

Like I said it's been a long time since I was involved with all of this, so if there are any retired owner operators here, please correct anything I may have misstated regarding the apportioned plates and fee assessments.

Yeah, go ahead and try to circumvent the system. When you go to use a state park campground in your state, and it is in horrible condition or even closed, you lost your right to complain.

I'll say it again:
KNOW the law.
COMPLY with the law.
DOCUMENT your compliance with the law.

If complying with the law means you can NEVER bring your RV "home", DO NOT EVER cross the border into your home state with it!
If complying with the law means you must keep the RV out of your home state for 6 months or one year, then KEEP it out for that period, and be willing and able to PROVE that you have done so!
It really IS just that simple!

And what does that have to do with their registration fees and taxes? I see 30 trailers in a lot that never leave the state they are parked in and all have Maine tags.

jgolden wrote:

Lipets wrote:

jgolden wrote:
$10K is a big ticket charge. My county is 8%.
My last new vehicle (pickup truck) NY charged tax on MSRP. Rebates and discount off the price were taxed. Tax website explains it, or at least restates it.

Rebates are taxed, I agree.

Discounts are never taxed in NY

You are never taxed on MSrP in NY, I would guess that no state does.

Thanks just got back to this post.
This from NY state Tax Dept
New vehicle (prior to rebates)
$25,000
Minus dealer’s rebate
- 1,000
Taxable amount
$24,000
In this example, since the dealer will be reimbursed by the manufacturer and the credit card company, neither the $2,000 manufacturer’s rebate nor the $500 credit card rebate may be deducted from the amount subject to sales tax. However, the dealer’s rebate of $1,000, which is not reimbursed by any other third party, must be deducted from the taxable amount.

Depends on what you call MSRP. If the dealer gives no "rebate" then the MSRP and the Taxable amount is the same, or so it appears.
As you can see the "price" example includes manuf rebates of $2000 and a credit card deal credit of $500. To get to the $25,000 sale price. Eliminate the dealer discount and the MSRP is the starting point.
I'll have to dig out the original paper work.

In NY you will pay the sales tax on the difference between your trade and the new rig. If someone is paying full MSRP on a new unit, then they have more issues than just sales tax. Only the cash difference is subject to sales tax.

ferndaleflyer wrote:
How about one of you "experts" telling me how trucking companies from all over the country have their trailers registered in Maine? Legally! These things go over scales every day with no complaints.

Interstate trucking companies pay pro rated road use fees for the states they operate in.

We just had another post from a RV er who said that "he did everything legal" when he set up his LLC so he could register his RV in a state with low tax.

Problem is.. His advisors lied. His state treasurer did not think it was legal at all and has just sent him a notice of apparent liability.

And odds are quite good it will stick.

Many others, over the years, have posted the same sad story.. Generally the liability you end up with is considerably more than if you'd paid up front like you should.

Now if you plan on MOVING to say SD or MT. Good for you.

But so long as you reside in __, registering your RV in another state is one sick bird (That is an ILL Eagle) folks). Thank K6ATX for the pun.

How about one of you "experts" telling me how trucking companies from all over the country have their trailers registered in Maine? Legally! These things go over scales every day with no complaints.