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msmith1199
Explorer II
May 12, 2020

Nexus Viper Class B+

Okay, I’ve gone back and forth and now I’m back to looking at a Class B+ on a Ford E-450 Chassis with the Ford V-10. I looked at the sprinter based motorhomes and determined that since I still want the option of bringing the Ford Ranger toad along that the Sprinter chassis just won’t do it since I’d be over the GCVWR.

Now I’m looking at the Nexus Viper 27 foot model with the Ford V-10. Looks like it is well built and has everything I was looking for. But, it’s a small company with only 30 employees so they don’t turn out a huge number of motorhomes. I found one RV site that had a few reviews on the RV and most were negative. Now I am an experienced RVer and this will be my third motorhome, so I know it’s routine that people generally only write reviews when they aren’t happy. Anybody on here have any experience with the Nexus Viper motorhomes and have any feedback? Good, bad, or ugly?

Although fuel mileage is not a huge issue for me, I’m seeing people all over the place on the MPG of the current V-10 engines. My first motorhome was a Rexhall Airbus 32 foot class A with the V-10 and I’d get 10 with the Jeep toad and 12 without it. I would be very happy if this smaller motorhome got 12. My Rexhall was almost 20 years ago. Any experience with MPG on with the V-10 engine on smaller motorhomes like this?
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  • MDKMDK's avatar
    MDKMDK
    Explorer
    May 13, 2020
    B+ = Unicorn, Leprechaun, Fairies, honest politician. They don't exist. If it's a coach on a cab chassis, it's a class C, or a Super c.
  • bob_nestor's avatar
    bob_nestor
    Explorer III
    May 13, 2020
    MDKMDK wrote:
    B+ = Unicorn, Leprechaun, Fairies, honest politician. They don't exist. If it's a coach on a cab chassis, it's a class C, or a Super c.


    Give it a rest. If people or companies want to call a Class C without a cabover a Class B+ who does it hurt? Just because RVIA hasn't blessed the term doesn't mean it's the end of the world. People give their RVs cute names too and that's not blessed or authorized by RVIA either.
  • Jack_Spratt's avatar
    Jack_Spratt
    Explorer
    May 13, 2020
    2019 Leprechaun on the F450. V10 mileage averages around 8
    Towing a Jeep at 65.
  • RetiredRealtorR's avatar
    RetiredRealtorR
    Explorer
    May 13, 2020
    bob_nestor wrote:
    MDKMDK wrote:
    B+ = Unicorn, Leprechaun, Fairies, honest politician. They don't exist. If it's a coach on a cab chassis, it's a class C, or a Super c.


    Give it a rest. If people or companies want to call a Class C without a cabover a Class B+ who does it hurt? Just because RVIA hasn't blessed the term doesn't mean it's the end of the world. People give their RVs cute names too and that's not blessed or authorized by RVIA either.


    Like Thor's RUV's for example. What's an RUV, and what makes it any different from a Class A??
  • ron_dittmer's avatar
    ron_dittmer
    Explorer II
    May 14, 2020
    The length of the 27 foot Nexus Viper is actually 28.5 feet. Like yourself, I have read some serious negative reviews on the Nexus line.

    Just down the street from the Nexus factory is the Phoenix Cruiser factory. PCs are scaled-down by design to make them more friendly to drive and maneuver.

    CLICK HERE to watch a You Tube video that compares a Phoenix Cruiser to a similar floor plan of what they refer to as Brand-X. I recognized Brand-X as a Nexus Viper. A lot is nit-picky trivial stuff, but there are some serious matters too.
  • msmith1199's avatar
    msmith1199
    Explorer II
    May 14, 2020
    ron.dittmer wrote:
    The actual measurements of the 27 foot Nexus Viper is actually 28.5 feet. Like yourself, I have read some serious negative reviews on the Nexus line.

    Just down the street from the Nexus factory is the Phoenix Cruiser factory. PCs are scaled-down by design to make them more friendly to drive and maneuver.

    CLICK HERE to watch a You Tube video that compares a Phoenix Cruiser to a similar floor plan of what they refer to as Brand-X. I recognize Brand-X as a Nexus Viper. A lot is nit-picky trivial stuff, but there are some serious matters too.


    Only problem with the Phoenix’ Cruiser is the price. Yeah, I understand you get what your pay for, but they want almost a much a DP for that. Also they only do factory direct sales don’t they?
  • msmith1199's avatar
    msmith1199
    Explorer II
    May 14, 2020
    MDKMDK wrote:
    B+ = Unicorn, Leprechaun, Fairies, honest politician. They don't exist. If it's a coach on a cab chassis, it's a class C, or a Super c.


    You need to complain to the owners of RV.NET because they have a B+ category.
  • ron_dittmer's avatar
    ron_dittmer
    Explorer II
    May 14, 2020
    msmith1199 wrote:
    ron.dittmer wrote:
    The actual measurements of the 27 foot Nexus Viper is actually 28.5 feet. Like yourself, I have read some serious negative reviews on the Nexus line.

    Just down the street from the Nexus factory is the Phoenix Cruiser factory. PCs are scaled-down by design to make them more friendly to drive and maneuver.

    CLICK HERE to watch a You Tube video that compares a Phoenix Cruiser to a similar floor plan of what they refer to as Brand-X. I recognize Brand-X as a Nexus Viper. A lot is nit-picky trivial stuff, but there are some serious matters too.
    Only problem with the Phoenix’ Cruiser is the price. Yeah, I understand you get what your pay for, but they want almost a much a DP for that. Also they only do factory direct sales don’t they?
    Yes and no. There is also a dealer network now, primarily east coast.

    Lots of people say the same thing concerning the price of the Phoenix Cruiser. They buy "used" and most are very happy with their decision.

    The prices have gone up the past 3 years, so a 4 year old used one sold by owner will be much more affordable. That is unless they learned of the price hike.
  • DrewE's avatar
    DrewE
    Explorer II
    May 14, 2020
    msmith1199 wrote:
    MDKMDK wrote:
    B+ = Unicorn, Leprechaun, Fairies, honest politician. They don't exist. If it's a coach on a cab chassis, it's a class C, or a Super c.


    You need to complain to the owners of RV.NET because they have a B+ category.


    They do indeed, and it's a subcategory in the Class C Motorhomes forum.

    "B+" is marketing speak, and means whatever the people marketing them want it to mean--usually a relatively upscale class C without a cabover bed. It's also a rather confusing term because they're not class B RVs at all; they're not built within a van body. I guess they probably figure that "Class B+" sounds better than "Class C-"....

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