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P30 Disc brake vs drum brake ball joints

https://ibb.co/hmHLG0S Ive had issues with the ball joints on my p30 since ive owned it. Ive had shops replace them twice in my ownership, and the rest of the time they told me the ball joint...

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BrianinMichigan

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Nov 13, 2022

It seems that theres often 4 options for lower ball joints when you look for them;

Motorhome/stripped chassis with rear disc (part number 6511) *this is the correct one*

P30 standard van with rear disc (part number 6175)

P30 with rear drum (part number 6129)

F44 heavy duty chassis (part number 6117) *im not sure what truck these are for*

OK what would be the difference between the stripped chassis and the P-30 with rear disc?

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Disc brake vs drum brake ball joints","id":"message:3587114","revisionNum":1,"repliesCount":11,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:55013"},"depth":0,"hasGivenKudo":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3587114"},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3587114"},"body@stripHtml({\"truncateLength\":200})":"https://ibb.co/hmHLG0S Ive had issues with the ball joints on my p30 since ive owned it. Ive had shops replace them twice in my ownership, and the rest of the time they told me the ball joint...","body@stringLength":"1901","rawBody":"https://ibb.co/hmHLG0S

Ive had issues with the ball joints on my p30 since ive owned it. Ive had shops replace them twice in my ownership, and the rest of the time they told me the ball joints are fine.

Well i developed a new clunk in my front end and determined it was my lower ball joints because the castle nut would not longer stay “snugged” down and i was cranking on them at every gas stop during my last trip.

I decided to replace all the ball joints myself and put this problem to rest. I did a ton of research and bought the proper part numbers for my disc brake model p30 and even purchased a few different brands to compare them. Worked until about 8pm last night taking my time and confirming i have no other issues. The lower ball joints practically fell out of the truck when i loosened all the hardware.

As you can see in the picture above, the truck had the WRONG lower ball joints in it, despite my attempts to explain to the recent shop that did it that there are 2 kinds. I suspect that it had the wrong ball joints the first time i had them replaced as well.

Pictured: left joint is the existing drum brake style ball joint. The shaft is shorter and every so slightly narrower, which explains why it became so loose

Right joint is a new old stock parts master disc brake style ball joint i bought on ebay for this comparison.

Ive installed moog all around. Sorry for the winded post but my mind is blown that this has gone on for so long. P30’s honestly shouldnt be on the road due to lack of repair knowledge in the industry but ive got so much invested into this thing that it needs to get me another few years."},"Conversation:conversation:3587114":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:3587114","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3587114"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2022-11-15T18:53:37.000-08:00","lastPostTime":"2022-11-15T18:53:37.000-08:00","unreadReplyCount":11,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3587114":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3587114","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:3587114_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:3587114_1","lastEditTime":"2022-11-06T03:08:42.000-08:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3587124":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:3587124","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3587114"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:261117"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":3587124,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"subject":"Re: P30 Disc brake vs drum brake ball joints","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3587124"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3587114"},"body":"It seems that theres often 4 options for lower ball joints when you look for them;

Motorhome/stripped chassis with rear disc (part number 6511) *this is the correct one*

P30 standard van with rear disc (part number 6175)

P30 with rear drum (part number 6129)

F44 heavy duty chassis (part number 6117) *im not sure what truck these are for*

OK what would be the difference between the stripped chassis and the P-30 with rear disc?","body@stringLength":"496","rawBody":"It seems that theres often 4 options for lower ball joints when you look for them;

Motorhome/stripped chassis with rear disc (part number 6511) *this is the correct one*

P30 standard van with rear disc (part number 6175)

P30 with rear drum (part number 6129)

F44 heavy duty chassis (part number 6117) *im not sure what truck these are for*

OK what would be the difference between the stripped chassis and the P-30 with rear 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