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pweekly
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Jul 20, 2014

Question about diesel brakes

Hi all. While researching new diesel coaches, I notice most just specify ABS braking systems. I assumed all had air brakes but saw the following as a feature.

Full Air Front Discs & Rear Drum Anti-Lock Brakes

Is this a good thing or bad thing to have drum brakes on the tear or is it how it is? Thanks for any insight.
Trish
  • Ok Perfect. I love the way my Mandalay stops, so this wouldn't be a bad thing to have the disc/drum combo. Thanks so much everybody.
  • My Mandalay has front disk and rear drum, all air if course.
    It is built on a heavy duty Freightliner truck chassis.
  • pweekly wrote:
    Thank you for the information. I appreciate learning from you all. I wonder what my Mandalay has? (2005 Freightliner/Cummins 400hp). It stops on a dime and has an exhaust brake as well. We just didn't know if that was standard to have half air/disk and half drum, all drum or all air and what is preferable. Does anyone know what Tiffin Allegro Bus has Thanks again.


    You will have air brakes all the way round. The drum brakes are air brakes.
  • Not aware of any "sub-par" braking systems on DP's.

    There are:
    air drum/drum
    air disk/drum
    air disk/disk
    hydraulic over hydraulic disk/disk
    air over hydraulic disk/disk

    All are well-proven systems. Yes, "care and feeding" varies depending on what you have.

    And, your Cummins L may have an exhaust brake, or it could have an engine compression brake-- both were available on the L engine.
  • Thank you for the information. I appreciate learning from you all. I wonder what my Mandalay has? (2005 Freightliner/Cummins 400hp). It stops on a dime and has an exhaust brake as well. We just didn't know if that was standard to have half air/disk and half drum, all drum or all air and what is preferable. Does anyone know what Tiffin Allegro Bus has Thanks again.
  • I have disc all the way around on my Foretravel. Work great and S&P great too and I am at 162824 miles.
  • pweekly wrote:
    Hi all. While researching new diesel coaches, I notice most just specify ABS braking systems. I assumed all had air brakes but saw the following as a feature.

    Full Air Front Discs & Rear Drum Anti-Lock Brakes

    Is this a good thing or bad thing to have drum brakes on the tear or is it how it is? Thanks for any insight.
    Trish


    pweekly,
    Drum brakes on a diesel pusher are very common. They work outstandingly well. There's ton of square inch application area in those drums and, the mechanisms are quite dependable and stout. The primary reason most mfgs of motor homes used drums on their diesels units for so long is of course, money. If the chassis manufacturer gave the coach manufacturer a choice of drum or disc in a specific chassis, about 95% of them chose the drums to keep the price down and, still be able to supply a quality unit to the end buyer.

    If a diesel coach is equipped with drums all the way around, as ours is, and, it's driven smartly and correctly, the drum brakes on it could and often do, last for way past 150,000 miles. It all depends on the drivers ability to utilize secondary braking systems like either what's called the "Exhaust brake" on about 75% of the lower end diesels or, on the heavier coaches with the larger Cu.In. diesel engines, they come with what's called a true, "Jake Brake". A "Jake" (short for Jacobs manufacturing) is an engine compression brake, utilizing the internal parts of the engine, to supply braking power for the coach.

    If either of those secondary braking systems are used correctly, either primary braking system, disc or drum, is a great and very dependable system.

    ABS or, Anti-Lock Braking Systems are coupled to drum or disc and or, both tied together, as in your question. When searching for a nice diesel used coach, and you find one that's really to your liking, and it is equipped with drum brakes, there's not a thing wrong with that at all. That coach's brakes will serve you for decades of time. Good luck.
    Scott
  • Our brakes are drum air brakes, and they do well, considering we do most of our braking at speed with the Jake brake. Country Coach went to front disc brakes in the late 90's, and in 2008 switched to all disc brakes. All disc brakes would be better, but I have not had any situation where our brakes were inadequate.
  • Many vehicles have disk front and drum rear brakes. Its an easier setup to be able to balance the braking power