My signature HR has a single slide out (LR & Kit. driver side). Occasionally, I have an issue with the engine start up, that is, there is a safety circuit that if it senses the slide is out, will not allow the engine start circuit to complete. BTW, the slide is not out, in fact it is in and travel clamps are in place when this occurs. Does anyone know whether this is a limit switch that needs adjustment and where its located? Or is the in/out position stop strictly a motor torque sensor and is it adjustable? Luckily, there is an override switch that I can depress that allows the start circuit to work, so I've never been stranded, but I would like to adjust this issue away, if I can.

We did not start selling Monaco/HR products until 1998. BUT, I have NEVER seen any Monaco product have such a feature. I also have NEVER seen such a feature on the thousands of motorhomes (multitude of brands) I have worked on over the past 34 years and especially since Slideouts have become standard on almost all motorhomesin the past 25 years. What makes you believe your HR has such a feature? There is no good reason to have such a feature on a motorhome. If the slideout is extended and you attempt to drive OFF, then you are pretty stupid if you do not see that slideout in your side view mirrors:B I do believe there are a few brands that have such a feature, but I have never seen them. Where is this override switch located and are you positive that a previous owner did not install it? It does NOT make sense to have such a feature and then have an override switch that negates that feature. Doug

dougrainer wrote:We did not start selling Monaco/HR products until 1998. BUT, I have NEVER seen any Monaco product have such a feature. I also have NEVER seen such a feature on the thousands of motorhomes (multitude of brands) I have worked on over the past 34 years and especially since Slideouts have become standard on almost all motorhomesin the past 25 years. What makes you believe your HR has such a feature? There is no good reason to have such a feature on a motorhome. If the slideout is extended and you attempt to drive OFF, then you are pretty stupid if you do not see that slideout in your side view mirrors:B I do believe there are a few brands that have such a feature, but I have never seen them. Where is this override switch located and are you positive that a previous owner did not install it? It does NOT make sense to have such a feature and then have an override switch that negates that feature. DougFirstly, the reason I came to the forum knowledge base was to find out whether there was knowledge concerning such systems and how or if it was adjustable. I do not know whether the previous owner (died) installed such an override switch or if it was a factory installed feature. The switch is located in the center console area ie if you pull the drawer out the momentary push button switch is concealed in the drawer cavity area. What I can tell you other than the previous description of the actions that occur is that if you unclamp the travel clamps, extend the slide, return the slide, reclamp the travel clamps, the problem goes away ie the engine starts immediately. I'm not trying to defeat this feature but only trying to adjust the false alarms that I'm dealing with, OK. You know, the use of such a interlock is not that stupid because IF the slide was not secure, for whatever reason, its not a bad idea to prevent movement (no engine start). Yeah its stupid to have that happen, but you've certainly seen worse, right!!!

He has a manual lock system. I'd bet the no start is more for that not being properly latched than the slide being fully extended. How many antennae have been trashed over the years (there's an antenna up light on mine), the steps retract automatically with an ignition signal. I've heard of people driving off without unplugging the power cable, heck there's a break away connector on gas hoses, how would you miss taking that our of the side of your vehicle? Stupid stuff does happen.

jtfcons wrote:dougrainer wrote:We did not start selling Monaco/HR products until 1998. BUT, I have NEVER seen any Monaco product have such a feature. I also have NEVER seen such a feature on the thousands of motorhomes (multitude of brands) I have worked on over the past 34 years and especially since Slideouts have become standard on almost all motorhomesin the past 25 years. What makes you believe your HR has such a feature? There is no good reason to have such a feature on a motorhome. If the slideout is extended and you attempt to drive OFF, then you are pretty stupid if you do not see that slideout in your side view mirrors:B I do believe there are a few brands that have such a feature, but I have never seen them. Where is this override switch located and are you positive that a previous owner did not install it? It does NOT make sense to have such a feature and then have an override switch that negates that feature. DougFirstly, the reason I came to the forum knowledge base was to find out whether there was knowledge concerning such systems and how or if it was adjustable. I do not know whether the previous owner (died) installed such an override switch or if it was a factory installed feature. The switch is located in the center console area ie if you pull the drawer out the momentary push button switch is concealed in the drawer cavity area. What I can tell you other than the previous description of the actions that occur is that if you unclamp the travel clamps, extend the slide, return the slide, reclamp the travel clamps, the problem goes away ie the engine starts immediately. I'm not trying to defeat this feature but only trying to adjust the false alarms that I'm dealing with, OK. You know, the use of such a interlock is not that stupid because IF the slide was not secure, for whatever reason, its not a bad idea to prevent movement (no engine start). Yeah its stupid to have that happen, but you've certainly seen worse, right!!!The reason I posted was to let you know that it is NOT standard for that switch. The fact that the switch is hidden shows the previous owner installed it. Since it is NOT OEM, it will be very difficult for anyone to give you help as the previous owner did all the modifications. I would bypass the hidden switch and not rely on the jerry rigged disconnect. IF a slide is not secure the MOST it will move is about 3 to 4 inches. Doug

I'll try again since the basic question is still; does anyone know what is the normal method for detecting the position of the slide-out especially the IN position. From what I have already described, there is obviously a lock-out in play here that prevents starting when the control perceives a condition of slide out. Again, the slide is not out, in fact, it is in and manual locks are in place. I want to troubleshoot this issue and would like a place to start. I have opened the slide-out control box. Some relays, integrated circuit components, etc. I don't see any obvious adjustment pots. The control was made for HR by Todd Engineering, but a quick internet search shows no commercial product they sell for RV slide-outs. If nothing turns up here, I may try to contact them and see if anybody has a clue.

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jtfcons
Explorer
Sep 18, 2013
OK, thanks for the replies. I'll do some more looking to see what I can find.
azpete
Explorer
Sep 18, 2013
check around the room for a sensor that has to do with room IN position.
it may be loose or out of adjustment. ive worked on all kinds of rv's since 1967, and ive never seen a coach that will not START because of a room issue. i'm with doug there.
that makes no sense. but of course, no one ever said it had to make sense. people do very strange things sometimes. even manufacturers.
there are a lot of coaches that will not go into gear because of room sensors being out of position.
so it seems that is a direction to go in.
check around the perimeter of the wall opening, as well as under the inside of the room, behind the facia. part of it has to be mounted to something that does not move when the room does, as well as being connected to the wire harness. follow that. i know this may be simplistic, but its somewhere to start.
dougrainer
Nomad
Sep 18, 2013
You just take the switch and connect the 2 wires and that overrides the system. BUT, if it ALWAYS works with the override switch, then I guess just leave it like it is. Remember, I cannot find that system/parts listed on the Monaco parts breakdown for your year/model. That means that Monaco realized that the system was NOT a good idea and dropped it. They may have even had a TSB to remove or disengage the system because of problems back then. I find it strange that NOBODY else with you model has posted and there have to be hundreds of your type model and year out there. Doug
msmith1199
Explorer II
Sep 18, 2013
Cut the green wire first. No, no maybe the red wire.... no...
jtfcons
Explorer
Sep 18, 2013
dougrainer wrote:
I was hoping the wires and connections would be labeled. Is there a schematic on the inside of the cover? You stated that you can start the engine with the SLIDE EXTENDED. I thought that was the point of the safety interlock----To NOT start the engine when the slide was extended. Was that a typo? Regardless, I would disengage the system to not affect the engine starting at all. Doug

No schematic. I can only start with the slide extended if the switch (override) is depressed. Sorry, if that was not clear.

As it currently stands, when the slide is in and I can not start, the only recourse is to depress the aforementioned switch. So until I find out why it fails to start with the slide in, I don't see how I can remove that switch from the circuit. If I knew where to look as to how it is inserted or had a schematic, maybe this would be an option. This issue is intermittent, that is, the fail to start with slide in only occurs once in about every 20 starts or so, but is still something I want to trouble shoot and fix if possible because this can't be normal. Said another way, whatever the mechanism is that tells the control the slide is in has a problem that I would like to fix. Like I said before, I've never been stranded, because pushing the switch always cures the fail to start.
dougrainer
Nomad
Sep 17, 2013
I was hoping the wires and connections would be labeled. Is there a schematic on the inside of the cover? You stated that you can start the engine with the SLIDE EXTENDED. I thought that was the point of the safety interlock----To NOT start the engine when the slide was extended. Was that a typo? Regardless, I would disengage the system to not affect the engine starting at all. Doug
jtfcons
Explorer
Sep 17, 2013
">Photo of inside box.
jtfcons
Explorer
Sep 16, 2013
Lobstah wrote:
That is VERY strange.
So if you boondock, and you want to start your engine for any reason, only way to do it is to pull the slide in first?

Keep us posted on what you find out, very curious.

Jim

I'll get that inside pic for you soon.

There you go, that is the point, the switch I referred to earlier allows you to start with the slide fully out, as in boon docking situation. Maybe others allow this automatically, but not mine, there is an interlock.
msmith1199
Explorer II
Sep 16, 2013
I'm no master RV tech and my motorhome doesn't have one of these safety features, but in the almost 12 years I've been a member of this forum you are not the first person who has had issues with this safety feature. So I know it exists on other motorhomes.

I can't help you fix it, but personally if it were me, I'd try and find some way to disconnect it. I think it's a safety feature you really don't need.
dougrainer
Nomad
Sep 16, 2013
MDEX from Monaco shows no such part at all or available and does not show that for the late 90's HR product line. Doug

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