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- boondockdadExplorer
westernrvparkowner wrote:
DSDP Don wrote:
It only took 3 pages, but thank you, we finally have a reasonable response. Makes you wonder why there is any crime in this country at all, since EVERYONE is apparently 100% innocent of any wrong doing and are on the express lane to sainthood.
Wow.....Are some of you THAT naïve. This was a dope dealer. They stopped him, but didn't find dope. This doesn't just happen to Joe citizen driving down the road. How many of you drive around with $167K stashed in your vehicle. Suddenly, many of you have made him out as a full timer enjoying his retirement when he gets caught up with the police for no reason.....really!!!
I guarantee that if you could see the driver's record, he has a long list of dope convictions. This article is printed from the side of the driver, where law enforcement is never asked or is not willing to discuss the case, but the media likes to print what looks like an outrageous story.
This is a defense version of the story and is no different than what you hear from a mass murderer's defense attorney. Telling you he was a choir boy and model citizen.
Ever had a "Civics" class?
"Innocent until proven guilty ring any bells"?
SMH - SteeljagExplorerAs stated here numerous times.....Two sides to every story! What is this guys Criminal history ? Was he " traveling" with no traveling clothes and or supplies ? His story at the time not matching up ?
The ten thousand dollar "regularly" deposited story by the local convience store guy ? My local store guy does not regulaly deposit that type of cash!! So "maybe" that story has more to it also !
....and I'm pretty sure all Interstaes have minimum speed limits !
Just my thoughts ! - westernrvparkowExplorer
DSDP Don wrote:
It only took 3 pages, but thank you, we finally have a reasonable response. Makes you wonder why there is any crime in this country at all, since EVERYONE is apparently 100% innocent of any wrong doing and are on the express lane to sainthood.
Wow.....Are some of you THAT naïve. This was a dope dealer. They stopped him, but didn't find dope. This doesn't just happen to Joe citizen driving down the road. How many of you drive around with $167K stashed in your vehicle. Suddenly, many of you have made him out as a full timer enjoying his retirement when he gets caught up with the police for no reason.....really!!!
I guarantee that if you could see the driver's record, he has a long list of dope convictions. This article is printed from the side of the driver, where law enforcement is never asked or is not willing to discuss the case, but the media likes to print what looks like an outrageous story.
This is a defense version of the story and is no different than what you hear from a mass murderer's defense attorney. Telling you he was a choir boy and model citizen. - FormerBoaterExplorerIt gets worse than this, if you read the entire article you will learn about the convenience store owner in NC that regularly made deposits just under the $10K threshold where the bank has to file an SAR (Suspicious Activity Report).
The government swooped in and confiscated his company bank account and then wanted him to settle out of court if they returned half of the money.
Bottom line: Law Enforcement working for the state or federal government participates in (regrettably lawful) confiscation of private citizens funds with little recourse for the citizens.
I was going to recommend writing your elected officials to stop this disgusting practice, but then I remembered they are all on their August "break" before resuming their 3 day work weeks in our nation's capital.
We the citizens need to pay closer attention to what is being done in this country. - TvovExplorer II
msmith1199 wrote:
The judges decision on this case is available on line. The search was conducted with a search warrant. Also located during the search were "pay-owe" sheets. The pay-owe sheets are not described in the ruling, but what those are is basically financial records that drug dealers keep of their customers and who owes what. Normally hand written on a piece of paper and in many cases very easy to tell what they are referring to.
The case was overturned because the Supreme Court made a ruling after this case was initiated that changed the rules on law enforcement detentions during a traffic stop. So in the opinion of the Judge, what the cops did may have been legal at the time they did it, but after the Supreme Court ruling after the fact, it was no longer legal. The subject in question refused to answer questions about the source of the money. He worked selling paddle boards for a company in Maui, according to him.
THIS is what pisses off street cops. They use their experience to get drug dealers off the street, then judges let them go... and people make the cops out to be the bad guys!
I HATE big government... but when arguing about politics and government, I try not to use an illegal drug dealer to make my point... - nevadanickExplorerThis probably happened near Winnemucca in Humboldt county. It was an ongoing problem with them stopping people and confiscating their cash. I am sure if you google it you can find more stories like this one. Some were as little as $2500. Not saying its right or wrong, but i am pretty sure they have a different Sherriff now.
- boondockdadExplorerPolice departments use proceeds from "forfeiture" as budget windfalls.
Take one guess how this affects a departments enthusiasm to use "forfeiture".
It's always sad to hear somebody say: well, he must have been doing something wrong.
Or
It doesn't bother me, cause I'm not doing anything wrong.
Well, we've now reached the point where "not doing anything wrong" is actionable by the "authorities"
There was a study done, where it was shown that the average "law-abiding" citizen broke no less than THREE laws EVERYDAY, and at least one FELONY
Google it.
And while you're at it, check out the Cato Institute. - PF_PMExplorerHere in Kanada, a couple years ago I sold a truck . The buyer paid cash. I went to deposit some in one account and the rest (9000) in another. The bank required me to fill out and affidavit and swear an oath in front of a manager of the bank. I questioned all this and they told me it was a new law (that wasn't made public) snuck in by the federal government to help fight drug gangs. I think next time I'll just keep the cash and never mind depositing it !
- PF_PMExplorerHere in Kanada, a couple years ago I sold a truck . The buyer paid cash. I went to deposit some in one account and the rest (9000) in another. The bank required me to fill out and affidavit and swear an oath in front of a manager of the bank. I questioned all this and they told me it was a new law (that wasn't made public) snuck in by the federal government to help fight drug gangs. I think next time I'll just keep the cash and never mind depositing it !
- Dog_FolksExplorer IIAnother reason I am glad to be broke.
Can they confiscate coins?
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