Synthetic oil Coagulating

wny_pat wrote:

wa8yxm wrote:

down home wrote:

I use Mobil One but soon as I get a little more urge I'm going to locate a true synthetic for the little Mercedes,

Some time ago (2006 or 7 not sure which) I attended a rally. I attended the Shell (Rotella) lecture/presentation.

At that time the Shell rep, told us basically what you said about most "Synthetics" actually being Highly refined Dino oil.

He did mention two brands that were still 100 percent man made (By the way folks, Synthetic means man made) MOBILE ONE and one other.. I believe it was Amzoil. but please do not hold me to that one,,,

I'm not sure true Synthetic is necessarily better. But then I'm not sure it is not better either... (Not sure = Not sure).

Wiki - Synthetic Oil so you now what is what. It doesn't tell you which synthetics are really synthetics and which are Hydrocracked Dino Group III oils. And none of companies make it easy. One can tell if they send their oil in for analysis, but many don't. But one can also tell by looking over at the Bob Is The Oil Guy Forum, and see if anyone has posted a used oil analysis of a brand and type of oil that matches what you are using. All the info is there.

We can thank Castrol and the FTC for this confusion on what constitutes Synthetic oil. Mobil challenged Castrol for marketing their Group III hydroprocessed Syntec® motor oil as a synthetic when it wasn't. The FTC ruled in favor of Castrol, pulling the wool over the American Public's eyes concerning what is and isn't synthetic motor oil. By chemical definition, the Group III hydroprocessed so called synthetics are not synthetic
Defining Synthetic Lubricants
I must admit that the Group III hydroprocessed motor oils (which are called synthetics) are excellent when compared to normal Group II & III dino motor oils, and perform as well as many Group IV oils.

I didn't keep up with all the happenings. We use to run Castrol in high performance engines. When Castol Syntech came along I tried it.
It left a red vaarnish on everything. I knew right then it wasn't synthetic and I wouldn't use it any more.

Blends are all Dino Oil far as I know,, Some highly refined, some not regular,, Or more than likely all "Medium highly refined".

Some myths about Synthetics and the fact behind them.

"If you switch, you can't ever go back" Well, for a very short time there was one synthetic (NOT Mobile's) that did indeed cause issues if you switched back, but today.. Well... I'm lubed with "Durablend" which is one of those blends.. If you can blend 'em, you can clearly switch back.

"It will eat your seals" Again an early formula did that, NO longer in production, Modern synthetics are seal friendly.

But for some reasons, the "Warnings" which no longer apply keep hanging on.

wa8yxm wrote:

down home wrote:

I use Mobil One but soon as I get a little more urge I'm going to locate a true synthetic for the little Mercedes,

Some time ago (2006 or 7 not sure which) I attended a rally. I attended the Shell (Rotella) lecture/presentation.

At that time the Shell rep, told us basically what you said about most "Synthetics" actually being Highly refined Dino oil.

He did mention two brands that were still 100 percent man made (By the way folks, Synthetic means man made) MOBILE ONE and one other.. I believe it was Amzoil. but please do not hold me to that one,,,

I'm not sure true Synthetic is necessarily better. But then I'm not sure it is not better either... (Not sure = Not sure).

Wiki - Synthetic Oil so you now what is what. It doesn't tell you which synthetics are really synthetics and which are Hydrocracked Dino Group III oils. And none of companies make it easy. One can tell if they send their oil in for analysis, but many don't. But one can also tell by looking over at the Bob Is The Oil Guy Forum, and see if anyone has posted a used oil analysis of a brand and type of oil that matches what you are using. All the info is there.

We can thank Castrol and the FTC for this confusion on what constitutes Synthetic oil. Mobil challenged Castrol for marketing their Group III hydroprocessed Syntec® motor oil as a synthetic when it wasn't. The FTC ruled in favor of Castrol, pulling the wool over the American Public's eyes concerning what is and isn't synthetic motor oil. By chemical definition, the Group III hydroprocessed so called synthetics are not synthetic
Defining Synthetic Lubricants
I must admit that the Group III hydroprocessed motor oils (which are called synthetics) are excellent when compared to normal Group II & III dino motor oils, and perform as well as many Group IV oils.

BobandShaz wrote:
What about blends Ford sells a synthetic blend. I have used it in our 2006 Honda civic since day and it is at 250,000+ Our truck an 01 4x4 ford gas 200,000 used it here also both bought by us new. I was planning same product for new MH

My wife's Accord that we just traded in on a new CRV had 28X,XXX miles on it and all it ever had was Castrol 5W-20 dino fat squeezing s and Fram Filters used on it. Its not the oil nor the filters...its the quality build of the product itself.

What about blends Ford sells a synthetic blend. I have used it in our 2006 Honda civic since day and it is at 250,000+ Our truck an 01 4x4 ford gas 200,000 used it here also both bought by us new. I was planning same product for new MH

amxpress wrote:

Not many "synthetics" are true synthetics now. They are just more highly refined dyno oil.

Walmart "synthetic" is not made from pure synthetic stock, as mentioned, it is only refined oil base stock. If you're going to use synthetic oil, go with real synthetic. i.e. Amsoil (their hi line), Royal Purple, Red Line.

Be careful of these oils if you are still under warranty. Some of them are not API certified and, if you have an engine problem related to lube, your warranty may be null and void.

down home wrote:

I use Mobil One but soon as I get a little more urge I'm going to locate a true synthetic for the little Mercedes,

Some time ago (2006 or 7 not sure which) I attended a rally. I attended the Shell (Rotella) lecture/presentation.

At that time the Shell rep, told us basically what you said about most "Synthetics" actually being Highly refined Dino oil.

He did mention two brands that were still 100 percent man made (By the way folks, Synthetic means man made) MOBILE ONE and one other.. I believe it was Amzoil. but please do not hold me to that one,,,

I'm not sure true Synthetic is necessarily better. But then I'm not sure it is not better either... (Not sure = Not sure).

camper_ron wrote:
I have dun a good amount of research, finding out the WAL-MART stuff is supposedly good? I was not running this brand in my MH I am not sure what Synthetic oil the RV shop used. I was merely carrying this quart for adding. Not sure how long I had it in the compartment , but still have not gotten an answer to my original post anyone ever heard of this gelling, And is it damaging? I have used this method for about 8 years and 56,000 miles with no problem.

r0n…..:?

Dont use ANY syn oil in it. You arent working it under conditions that actually warrant syn oil. A top grade "dinosaur fat squeezings" will do you fine. 5W-30 or 10W-40 depending on the time of year you really work that coach "hard"

amxpress wrote:

Not many "synthetics" are true synthetics now. They are just more highly refined dyno oil.

Walmart "synthetic" is not made from pure synthetic stock, as mentioned, it is only refined oil base stock. If you're going to use synthetic oil, go with real synthetic. i.e. Amsoil (their hi line), Royal Purple, Red Line.

I wouldnt use AmSoil to lube the hinges on the outhouse door!

At least milk has a date on the jug but it makes a lousy lubricant. My WM friend sais their bulk synthetic is really Mobil 1.