Tag Axel

STEVEP220 wrote:
I own a 38" DP with 1 slide. I am looking at purchasing a 2012/2013DP with 4 slides and maybe a tag axel. I am looking at a Tiffin Phaeton/Bus 42/43 ft.. My questions are (1) is a tag axel worth the extra cost? (2)are 4 slides a problem fitting in a site at most campgrounds.?

Usually 40ft is it, without a tag, so with going longer and having a tag, I think, I'd just go with a 45ft model and be done with it.
Just doesn't seem worth it for 2 or 3 ft and even though they do have other advantages. Also a 40 without a tag will most likely have more basement space than a 42 with a tag.
As for parking it, I've seen them everywhere and anywhere.

SRJ, I apologize for miss quoting you when I said braking only. You said " Tag axles are for braking purposes, first and foremost." This statement still rates a :S

Thanks, Mark. You've got me beat with weight, 53,000 vs 45,000 but I've got you beat with fuel mileage...:B:B:B....Dennis

Just getting back to you on your dig on the other thread....:W....Dennis

Slides never a problem, MH length yes.

Mr.Mark wrote:


70 mph = 5.5
65 mph = 6.0
60 mph = 6.5
55 mph = 7.0

This makes it super easy to remember with the inverse relationship around highway speeds.

Also, thanks to the poster who confirmed the slide depth thing. That makes total sense that they are a bit more shallow due to the use while rolling. I'm sure my wife will appreciate that someday (as will I when making a quick run for the bathroom with the cruise control set :) :))

Executive wrote:

Mr.Mark wrote:

GMandJM wrote:
One good thing about a tag is that you pretty-much don't need to worry about being over your weight limits. The less-good thing is that because the tag takes up space, you have less basement space to carry "stuff" there.

Golden-HVAC is right: You're more likely to not fit into a campsite because of your length, not your width (some exceptions, of course). Our coach is functional with any/all slides in, so it's never been an issue.

Unlike Dennis' fancy Executive, the tag on our 42' Phaeton isn't liftable.

The tag on our previous coach (Monaco Dynasty) lifted. On our current coach, the tag releases pressure but still carries a partial load but allows for a tighter turning radius. At 53,000 lbs., the tag still needs to carry some weight.

MM.

MM, YOURS weighs MORE than mine..:h. Damn, now I'M gonna have to start looking at new coaches...:W.....Dennis

The weight does come with a fuel dilemma... (12.8 liter Volvo SOHC, 4 valves per cylinder, 500hp, 1,770 lb. ft. of torque).

70 mph = 5.5
65 mph = 6.0
60 mph = 6.5
55 mph = 7.0

(I'm always pulling a toad).

MM.

Skid Row Joe wrote:

Mr.Mark wrote:

Kayteg1 wrote:
If you need tag axle for driving straight, you start from wrong point.
Tag axles are for extra weight carrying and on good coaches they are liftable.
I had my vintage Prevost park in spot with sharp turn required, so lifted tag for better turning.
200 miles later I start thinking "did I lower the tag down?"
I did not and could not tell the difference in driving but fact is that it was slower driving in weekend traffic.
The tires on bus conversion operate at 60-70% of weight carrying capacity, so dropping another 30% is not posing any danger.

SRJ, you're messing with us aren't you! :R

LOL!

MM.

Dennis was busy on the 80' thread, so I filled in for him.:R Do you not want your Prevost's tag axle??

LOL!

(I quoted the wrong post earlier).

SRJ, I've got to keep my tag axle since it's the only axle with brakes.;)

MM.

Mr.Mark wrote:
GM&JM, we do have four slides and a 1.5 baths.

MM.

We have four-slides and 1.5 bath, too - just not as fancy. Yours must be waaaayyy bigger ;)

Mr.Mark wrote:

Kayteg1 wrote:
If you need tag axle for driving straight, you start from wrong point.
Tag axles are for extra weight carrying and on good coaches they are liftable.
I had my vintage Prevost park in spot with sharp turn required, so lifted tag for better turning.
200 miles later I start thinking "did I lower the tag down?"
I did not and could not tell the difference in driving but fact is that it was slower driving in weekend traffic.
The tires on bus conversion operate at 60-70% of weight carrying capacity, so dropping another 30% is not posing any danger.

SRJ, you're messing with us aren't you! :R

LOL!

MM.

Dennis was busy on the 80' thread, so I filled in for him.:R Do you not want your Prevost's tag axle??

LOL!

Liberty Coach told us that we will weigh between 53,000 and 54,000 lbs. wet (full fuel @ 235 gallons, full water @189 gallons, empty holding tank). I haven't weighed yet, just going by what I was told.

I thought we had a 230 gallon fuel tank but I looked it up in our Prevost manual and it says 235 gallons (we can now go an extra 30 miles! LOL!). It also says that we are 45'8" in length over the bumper.

GM&JM, we do have four slides and a 1.5 baths.

MM.