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Oct 29, 2013

Texas non-CDL Class B license

If you are a Texas resident and your Class A coach has a GVWR of 26,001 lbs or more, you *should* have a either a CDL (Commercial Drivers License) or non-CDL Class B driver's license. You probably want the non-CDL if you are only driving your RV. (Reference page iv in the Texas Commercial Motor Vehicle Dirver Handbook.
Document: DL-7C.PDF available on the TXDPS web site.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/internetforms/Forms/DL-7C.pdf )

Your RV dealer may not mention this licensing requirement to you ... might not want to slow down a sale or a delivery while you go out to get a license.

Can you get by without a Class B license? Maybe a police officer will catch the licensing discrepancy some day, maybe not. However, if you have an accident with your coach and your insurance company is looking for a reason not to pay many thousands of dollars in collision or liability coverage ... they are liable to send you something like: "Sorry, you were driving without a license. We won't pay." Just sayin'

How to get your non-CDL Class B license(at least, in Northern Texas).
1 - Download the DL-7C.PDF
2 - Study Section 14 (trust me, you won't know the answers on the test if you don't read this section. The answers are easy, but they are not intuitive.)
3 - Go to a TX DPS drivers licensing office and get in line to take the written test. (If you can figure out how to use the cell-phone scheduling feature at one of the mega-centers, let me know. I found it easier to *get there early* and physically get in line. I also got better service at a smaller licensing operation in Garland, TX than at the mega-center. The smaller center appeared to have longer tenured, more experienced employees.)
4 - Depending on the experience level at the licensing center, you may need to speak this phrase to several people until you find one that knows what you are talking about: "I want to take the written test for a non-commercial Class B license."
5 - Take the written test ... if you have read Section 14 in the book, this is the simplest part of the whole process.
-- At some point in this process you will have to pay an $11.00 fee. I paid an $11.00 for the learner's permit (needed???) and another $11.00 fee for the road test.
6 - Schedule your road test while you are at the center, or by using the on-line scheduler. (If your new coach is on order, you can rent an RV to practice with, as well as take the road test with. Work with the scheduler at the rental company to coordinate the road test date. Rent a vehicle that is over 26,001 GVWR and matches the braking system of your coach, i.e. air or hydraulic.)
*** If your coach has air brakes, study Section 5 in the book. You WILL be tested on your knowledge of inspecting and operating the air brakes as you begin the road test.***
7 - Show up well before your scheduled test ... they say 1 hour, I would suggest 2 hours. Things don't always go smoothly and you don't want to have to re-schedule because of a paperwork snafu.
8 - Speaking of paperwork, bring these with you: your current Class C (i.e. regular) license, vehicle registration document, vehicle insurance, rental agreement if the coach is rented, and whatever else they tell you on the email confirmation for your appointment. The written instructions did not say anything about bringing an A or B licensed person with me. So, I didn't. No one asked or seemed surprised that I didn't have one with me. So, I guess one isn't needed.
9 - There is a lengthy CDL pre-trip checklist in the book. I studied it thoroughly, but my tester didn't have me go thru it. Instead, she stood outside the vehicle and had me operate lights, signals, flashers, brakes and horn. But, I now have a very good pre-trip checklist to work from.
9a - Since my coach has air brakes, the inspector asked very specific questions about the why and the how as I physically went through the complete air brake inspection procedure. Hint: * * * Bring wheel chocks for the outside rear tires on both sides of the coach. * * *
10 - Follow the inspector's instructions for the road test ... deep breaths, relax and enjoy the ride.
11 - Take your completed & passed test document inside for them to order your new Class B license. They will give you a temporary one until the real one comes in the mail.
Good luck and safe driving!
Rick
  • Impulse24 wrote:
    All States are the same in licensing requirements.
    If you are not for hire you need no special licensing for an RV.
    If as you mention about Texas requiring a Non CDL License but are required to take the equivalent of a CDL test, then you are also required to stop at all Weigh Stations and comply with DOT FMCSA regulations. Most of the problems have been created by Non CDL Hotshots, who bend the rules to fit their schedule and deliveries.
    CDL Requirements:
    Up to 10001 lbs no special requirements providing you are in State, if you go Interstate or carry HazMat then Hours and a Log Book must be complied with.
    10001lbs to 260001 lbs (Normally a Class B but could be Articulated)requires CDL hours to be obeyed and Log Books to be kept.
    26001 lbs or over all CDL regulations must be obeyed.
    https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/rules-regulations.htm

    But I am curious did Texas require you to have a DOT Medical? Because under the FMSCA you should??

    Considering this is a RV forum, this just gets everybody all messed up. I held a Class 1 long before CDL came out, and drove both passenger vehicle and RV on my CDL long before giving it up. The CDL reverts to a regular class license when one is not driving CDL class interstate transportation vehicles. But when a judge sees a CDL holder standing before him, he/she normally holds them to a higher standard. By the way, many states require a different class, or endorsment, for RVs weighting more than 26,001 lbs or longer than 45'. And a couple states even require one to take a CDL written test for over 26.001 or 45 foot, but do not issue a actual CDL license. So best to stick with the actual home state requirements, in this case Texas, and not complicating the issues!
  • wolfe10 wrote:
    Impulse24 wrote:
    All States are the same in licensing requirements.



    Incorrect. Each state establishes its own drivers license requirements.

    In Texas, if RV GVWR is over 26,000 GVWR, a different (but non-CDL) license us required.


    Re read my post, it refers to CDL of which all states have to follow the same requirements under FMSCA and DOT Regulations.....

    Making someone have a non CDL license to drive what would ordinary be for the equivalent Weight of a CDL is ridiculous. If you are required to have a RV License then get a CDL and have done with it... But you still haven't answered the medical question??? At what stage will Texas and other suddenly say, Hmmm you getting old we need you to have a medical to drive than monstrosity........
  • rickpiet wrote:

    Can you get by without a Class B license? Maybe a police officer will catch the licensing discrepancy some day, maybe not. However, if you have an accident with your coach and your insurance company is looking for a reason not to pay many thousands of dollars in collision or liability coverage ... they are liable to send you something like: "Sorry, you were driving without a license. We won't pay." Just sayin'



    You "just sayin" is about something you obviously know very little about. Insurance is a contract between the individual and insurance company regulated by state authorities to protect the motoring public. Insurance will not have a clause relieving the insurer from paying for negligent acts by the insured. That is the very purpose of insurance. It will not have a clause relieving the insurer from paying for acts of violation of motor vehicle laws by the insured. Almost always an accident is the result of someone violating a traffic law. That is, once again, the purpose of insurance.
  • Just another "expert" that don't know what they are talking about. Many states require a license upgrade for RVs over 26,000lbs. Not sure which ones but other than Texas there are some others that do. Maryland for instance.
  • Impulse24 wrote:
    All States are the same in licensing requirements.



    Incorrect. Each state establishes its own drivers license requirements.

    In Texas, if RV GVWR is over 26,000 GVWR, a different (but non-CDL) license us required.
  • All States are the same in licensing requirements.
    If you are not for hire you need no special licensing for an RV.
    If as you mention about Texas requiring a Non CDL License but are required to take the equivalent of a CDL test, then you are also required to stop at all Weigh Stations and comply with DOT FMCSA regulations. Most of the problems have been created by Non CDL Hotshots, who bend the rules to fit their schedule and deliveries.
    CDL Requirements:
    Up to 10001 lbs no special requirements providing you are in State, if you go Interstate or carry HazMat then Hours and a Log Book must be complied with.
    10001lbs to 260001 lbs (Normally a Class B but could be Articulated)requires CDL hours to be obeyed and Log Books to be kept.
    26001 lbs or over all CDL regulations must be obeyed.
    https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/rules-regulations.htm

    But I am curious did Texas require you to have a DOT Medical? Because under the FMSCA you should??
  • Pretty much right on on the study material and the requirements.

    The non commercial "B" asks questions from the CDL book.

    Girl in Beaumont wanted me to test for airbrakes. I questioned her as to an airbrake endorsement being only for a CDL. She asked the officer present, and he confirmed no airbrake written.

    My drive was without a CDL walk around or airbrake demo, but I was prepped to do it.

    Easy little ride around the area.

    Les
  • Rick, DL-7C applies ONLY to commercial drivers licensing. Are you saying to get a NON Commercial Class B drivers license the requirements are the SAME? It appears all the info contained in the DL-7C document applies only to the CDL. Going to the Texas website and downloading the documents for a REGULAR Class A,B, C or M DL does not indicate the same qualifying documents and procedures you've outlined.

    I'm curious as we have some friends who are going full time soon and have narrowed their resident state choices to South Dakota and Texas. South Dakota has no such requirements nor safety inspections. Obviously, I don't want to pass on erroneous information.

    Thanks for the post, but I want to make sure it's accurate. I couldn't verify this information via their website and the 7C document does not apply to regular Class B licensing. I appreciate your help...Dennis