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Foodsman
Explorer
May 15, 2014

The "Ultimate" 40'+ DP Motorhome Reviews!

Hidy-Ho Good Neighbor,

“Ultimate” may be pushing things a little but we’re talking Pushers here right!

I’ve been assembling information on DP’s that fit my interest from all the major DP manufacturers with an MSRP of under $400,000.00

Of major importance to me mechanically are;
• Cummins diesel
• Freightliner chassis
• Tag axle
• 6 Speed Allison Transmission
• Exhaust breaks
• Air bag suspension

Important interior features are;
• Master bath at rear of coach
• Half bath
• Separate washer & dryer
• One piece windshield
• King size bed

I’ve been looking all over the internet for review and rating sights and as you know they are few and far between. I did find one however that I will mention later.

I’ve read many posts regarding “the best motorhome” and of course everyone has they’re likes and dislikes. So I developed the features list above, looked through all the coach brochures and websites and selected the floorplan. I wanted to ask questions based on the specifics of what I want instead of generalities.

After I put it all together I thought there may be others lurking here on the forum who may be interested in similar information and decided to post it here. I find it helpful to see information all in one place and hope its helpful to you.

I’ve included two manufacturers, Holiday Rambler and Monoco that do not fit my criteria but are major brands and thought you’d like them included in my list.

Here’s my data - I hope you find it worthwhile...

2014 Make & Model............ MSRP....... Dealer Pr.. GVWR/GCWR.. Rating.. Reviews

*American 42' G Revolution $369,000 $269,900 44,600/59600 .....65.8 .....10

**Entegra 42' RBQ Aspire $369,600 $254,995 46,600/61,600 ..... None .....0

*Fleetwood 42' M Providence $354,250 $295,253 44,700/59,700 ..... 56.92 .....87

*FR 43’ 430 FK Charleston $360,291 $227,000 44,320/59,320 ..... 52.9 ..... 208

*Itaska 42' QD Ellips $380,085 $290,194 44,600/59,600 ..... 61.2 ..... 124

*Newmar 43-9' 4369 Dutch Star $387,400 $298,436 44,600/54,600 ..... 63.6 ..... 80

*Thor 45' LT Tuscany $373,350 $258,400 44,600/59600 ..... 59.3 ..... 59

*Tiffin 42' LH Pheaton $365,370 $289,998 44,320/54,320 ..... 65.9 ..... 63

*Winnebago 42' QD Tour $382,250 $334,856 44,600/59,600 ..... 60.3 ..... 336

±HR 43’ DFT Endeavor $343,100 $248,721 43,000/53.000 ..... 60.9 .....201

±Monoco 43’ DFT Diplomat $368,440 $269,900 43,000/53,000 ..... 60.8 ..... 99

(sorry all the information is so spread out but I couldn't format it from my word processor to here.)

* 450-HP Cummins ISL Engine • 6 Speed Allison MH-3000 Automatic Transmission • Freightliner Chassis, Tag Axle • Air Brakes w/ABS • Exhaust Brake • 2-Stage Engine Brake • Automatic Leveling Jacks • Air suspension.

** Has Spartan Mountain Master chassis.

± 405 horsepower MaxxForce 10 engine • 6 Speed Allison MH-3000 Automatic Transmission • Roadmaster raised rail chassis. Other items same/similar to above.
Reviews provided from the website below.
http://www.rv-coach.com/rv/manufacturers/survey/rate_your_rv_results.html

So what did I learn from the above information.
• Forest River (FR) has the lowest reputation with a 52.9 customer rating.
• Tiffin and American have the highest reputation at 65.9 & 65.8 respectively.
• All coaches in this category are within $20,000 of each other in MSRP.
• *Dealer prices can have dramatic swings as shown.

I tried to get three different dealer prices for each coach and post an average. Obviously the actual price as you negotiate with the dealer can change dramatically. The most difficult dealer price to find was Newmar and I found only one.

My hope is this information will promote a good discussion on the brands based on the facts at hand. What I would really like to see from your posts are;
• What coach do you have now?
• Would you buy that brand again?
• If “NO” what would you now buy and why?

There are very few things I buy without research. Go to any web sight, Sears, Lowe’s, Walmart, etc and look at any item. You will see ratings for the product based on people who bought and are using the product. It also shows the number of people who have reviewed it. That information factors into 80% of my purchase decision.

A motorhome is different because there are many things that factor into the equation. Like the perfect floorplan and/or the perfect drivers position and that can trump a point system. But you’re doing it with the information at hand and that’s important.

But the “KEY” is, if we generate the kind of information we’re talking about here, we’re going in with knowledge and that means everything. And even though I only have new rigs listed, the information will also pertains to older rigs maybe 4 to 5 years down the line.

Let me thank you all in advance for helping me find the perfect motorhome. I sure look forward to the journey with you…

Harry
  • Effy's avatar
    Effy
    Explorer II
    When I think of ultimate I think of Newell, Prevost, Foretravel etc. The ones you listed I think would be considered more of a "high end production". Still a nice list. thanks for sharing.
  • Based on my own research I would tend to put three brands together as being comparable. Those three are the Entegra, American, and Newmar. I would tend to put Thor and Charleston in a lower category based on their amenities. We have had very good luck with our Forest River Berkshire but I would put the build quality a shade below the three that I mentioned. Tiffin makes a quality coach but I read far too many horror stories of structural problems and people having to truck off to Red Bay, AL for service and waiting there for weeks at a time. I don't know if Tiffins issues have been resolved yet. For me, Tiffin is just too much of a gamble right now. Our choices for our own purposes are down to the Entegra, but the Anthem, not the Aspire. The reason for the Anthem is the all-electric and IFS. I like the fact the Entegras are on Spartan chassis. For the Newmar we also are looking at the Dutch Star 4369. Right now that is the way we are leaning just due to floor plan choices in Newmar's Dutch Star.
  • Hey John S... The Foretravel is a little over $400,000.00 but only by 2 to 3 times! :) And I did show the difference in the other two brand under ±...
  • You have holiday rambler and Monoco and they do not have a freightliner. If you can bend on that then add Foretravel to the list. A few year old coach will slip under your price point and you might even find one with an ISX too.
  • Passed a King Aire coming down I-65 last night. Had never heard of that brand, apparently made by Newmar, who has a good reputation for making a quality coach. It checks most of your boxes above, the model 4584 has the rear bath with half bath off the kitchen. 600HP Cummins turbodiesel, Allison MH-4000, GVWR54000 GCWR 69000, tag axle etc. Only exception is the Spartan K3 chassis instead of the Freightliner.

    Only possible snag was this footnote at the bottom of the specs page: Starting at $836,768...I think it does qualify in the "ultimate" category though....