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- BobboExplorer III
Baja Man wrote:
as asked by ADOR.....any advantage to brass over chrome?
Also, the Borg ones have a round stabilizer that is placed in rim hole to stabilize the extension....the Tire Man ones do not.
Is this stabilizer much needed and why doesn't Tire man version not have them?
My tireman stems came with a stabilizer for the inner dually tire's valve stem. - j-dExplorer IICaps linked above are what I mentioned in Baja Man's other thread.
YES, adding one of those caps will let you check and add air with the shortest of metal stems.
FYI, it's the way Ford arranged the rim and the hole. You don't notice it with a short rubber valve, like Ford delivers with, because it'll flex enough to let you get a gauge and chuck onto it.
The Borg and Tire Man stems are made of Brass. So "Brass" is natural brass, and "Chrome" is chrome over brass. I think it's $10 additional. So my brass Dually Valves (Borg) are DL-1E. In Chrome, DL-1EC, which is what Camping World is selling.
I like the idea of the rubber Stabilizer. That inner stem is very long and that's a lot of unsupported weight. Which is why the Stabilizer goes in the OUTER wheel even though it's for the INNER valve. - Baja_ManExploreras asked by ADOR.....any advantage to brass over chrome?
Also, the Borg ones have a round stabilizer that is placed in rim hole to stabilize the extension....the Tire Man ones do not.
Is this stabilizer much needed and why doesn't Tire man version not have them? - millerwdExplorer
IAMICHABOD wrote:
gotsmart wrote:
j-d wrote:
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Front and Spare can get by nicely on ordinary METAL valves. Just not the very shortest ones if it's Ford wheels. Stem needs to be about 2" to allow gauge/chuck to clear the rim.
On my E450 I added one of these to each front tire to extend the valves past the simulators. I bought them at Les Schwab for $1 USD each.
Those come standard on all 6 valve stems from Tire Man. - j-dExplorer II
PhilandJoyce wrote:
...save me ONE tire pressure loss, it'll be worth it. I just can't put my faith in a rubber or even braided steel extension when it comes to my family's safety...
That, Boys and Girls, is IT in Nutshell. There are one-piece, solid metal, valves that hold air, that you can reach, and then there's everything else. - PhilandJoyceExplorerI had a rear-outer that absolutely REFUSED to hold pressure. After playing around with the tire/rim for nearly 2 HOURS, the mechanic could not find a leak. He even went to the point of completely removing the tire from the rim and doing an inch-by-inch inspection. Could not find a single issue.
Went to "de" winterize a few weeks ago, and the tire was flat AGAIN. I had already considered "Tire Man" valves, but this kinda put me over.
Had them installed (by a local shop that does A LOT of "dually" work (Limos, buses, HD trucks) and even THEY were impressed with the quality and precision.
If Chuck's REPLACEMENT valves (as these are not just extenders) save me ONE tire pressure loss, it'll be worth it. I just can't put my faith in a rubber or even braided steel extension when it comes to my family's safety. - leeperExplorerJust bought the Camper World Borg and am very happy with the results. I fully agree with j-d!
- BordercollieExplorerThe term "tire valve extenders" is not accurate, you want solid metal custom formed tire valves for rear duals. The front tires also need solid metal tire valves to clear the hole in the wheel covers and make checking/filling easier.
Pro truck tire shops may sell and install their own custom metal tire valves considerably cheaper than Borg, etc. Solid metal tire valves stay on the wheels when tires are replaced. Most RV tires are not rotated, unlike car tires. - j-dExplorer IIComments in ALL CAPS below. Not shouting, just don't know how to do Font and Italics.
ADOR wrote:
Is there an advantage of having the BRASS stem over the CHROME? Or the other way around? NOPE - THE "CHROME" KIT IS CHROME OVER BRASS SO IT'S JUST PRETTIED-UP BRASS. USUALLY PRICED $10 OR SO PER SET HIGHER THAN BRASS. OUR BORG SET IS BRASS, WHEN I DAMAGED ONE (TOTALLY MY FAULT) BILL SENT ME A FREE REPLACEMENT. HAD ONLY CHROME AND I SAID "SURE." ANY VANITY I STILL HAVE AT MY AGE DOESN'T EXTEND TO TIRE VALVES.
I have the Chrome kit from Camping World (only for the rear). I have not installed them yet.
PUT THEM IN! NOT A REASON IN THE WORLD NOT TO. THE IDEA THAT ONE BRAND IS THE ORIGINAL AND ANOTHER IS A KNOCK-OFF IS BUNK.
I called Tire-Man. He confirmed that the parts are also from China, assembled in USA. So that place the 2 kits at the same "Made in China" category.
WHICH I KNEW ALL ALONG, BUT DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO A "FORD/CHEVY" KIND OF DEBATE OVER VALVES.
Tire-Man kit have ALL 6 stems (front and rear). CUSTOM FRONT VALVES FOR FORD IS NICE BUT NOT A "MUST." CUSTOM FRONT VALVES FOR FORD IS NICE BUT NOT A "MUST." JUST USE A QUALITY METAL STEM ON EACH FRONT AND YOUR SPARE. IF YOU PUT AIR-THROUGH CAPS ON THEM, THE SHORTY ONES ARE OK. OTHERWISE YOU NEED AT LEAST A 2" LENGTH TO GET THE AIR CHUCK OUT OF INTERFERENCE WITH THE RIM. JUST USE A QUALITY METAL STEM ON EACH FRONT AND YOUR SPARE. IF YOU PUT AIR-THROUGH CAPS ON THEM, THE SHORTY ONES ARE OK. OTHERWISE YOU NEED AT LEAST A 2" LENGTH TO GET THE AIR CHUCK OUT OF INTERFERENCE WITH THE RIM.
Both kits look well built. THEY ARE AS EQUAL AS DAY AND NIGHT AT EQUINOX. BOTH CHUCK AND BILL ARE STAND-UP GUYS WITH QUALITY PRODUCTS THEY STAND BEHIND. DON'T LET ANYBODY TELL YOU ONE IS AND ONE ISN'T. I SUPPORT BILL BECAUSE I FOUND HIM FIRST AND HAVE HAD NOTHING BUT GREAT RESULTS AND CUSTOMER SERVICE.
I'M PROUD OF BILL (BORG) LANDING THE CW DEAL, AND CW FOR GETTING INTO VALVES WITH A QUALITY PRODUCT.
Edited with spacing, hopefully more readable. - ADORExplorerIs there an advantage of having the BRASS stem over the CHROME? Or the other way around?
I have the Chrome kit from Camping World (only for the rear). I have not installed them yet. I called Tire-Man. He confirmed that the parts are also from China, assembled in USA. So that place the 2 kits at the same "Made in China" category. Tire-Man kit have ALL 6 stems (front and rear). Both kits look well built.
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