-Gramps- wrote:
Mr.Mark wrote:
-Gramps- wrote:
Don,
I have owned the coach for nine years. It may have cost more than most gas buyers wanted to spend, the marketing may have not worked but the design is very good. There are hundreds of them still on the road (not that you would know if you saw one), very few are for sale anywhere because most owners keep them. I met an owner of a Winnie UFO yesterday. He pulled in from Roanoke on his way to Key West. Loves his GP.
My coach is 39.5 feet long, 22.5 tires, tows 10,000 lbs Allison 2000 tranny, and climbs a 7 percent grade faster than most motorhomes or trucks. It also has a computer controlled counter-weighted torsion box suspension that keeps it upright on tight curves. It has quad piston pressurized brakes and it will stop faster from 60 to 0 than a dp the same size.
Gramps, I think a Gas Pusher is a neat idea and I'm glad that you like yours.
But, a 60 to 0 stop comparison has to be done by weight, not size.
Our 45 ft. DP has a 'retarder' with 6 speeds. Most other DP'ers will have a 2 or 3 speed jake brake. The six speed retarder is stronger.
You will not find a 55,500 lb. gasser like our DP. We can stop extremely quick for our weight when using our 6 speed retarder, it has automatic activation when using the service brakes.
MM.
I was referring to same weight rating, poor choice of words I guess. I am not going to compare my coach to a 55,000 lb high end diesel anymore than I would compare a 325hp entry level diesel to a Road Trek class B. Its not apples to apples
Maybe this article might be interesting to you.
Its one of the reasons I purchased the UFO and the brakes have saved me more than once. I also have a grade brake...meaning when the grade brake is turned on, when going downhill I can tap the break pedal, the brakes do not engage, the transmission downshifts instead.
Union City, November 28, 2006 -- The conventional wisdom is that the air brakes on a rear diesel pusher motor home can beat anything mechanical found on a gas-powered motor home. If you want the best in stopping power, that's the way to go.
This is among the assumptions the new Workhorse UFOâ„¢ chassis has just shattered. Test data indicates the Workhorse UFOâ„¢ HPB Quadraulicâ„¢ four-wheel anti-lock disc brakes are superior to the competition's air brakes.
Results from head to head tests performed at the Bosch Proving Grounds in South Bend, Ind., have been released by Workhorse Custom Chassis. They show the Workhorse UFOâ„¢ coming to a complete stop more than a coach length sooner from 60 mph than the competition's rear diesel pusher.
Here are the facts:
" Coach on Workhorse UFOâ„¢ 26,000 lb. GVWR loaded to 26,000 lb.: Stopping distance, 60 mph to 0 mph, 189 feet.
" Similar coach on competitor's 28,000 lb. GVWR rear diesel pusher with air brakes and loaded to 26,000 lbs.: Stopping distance, 60 mph to 0 mph, 238 feet.
Difference: Workhorse UFOâ„¢ stopped 49 feet sooner.
"RVers driving big rigs want brakes they can trust to perform well in all kinds of weather and other conditions,"? said Bob Wert, Workhorse vice president of sales and marketing. "They haven't been mentioned much, but the stopping power and car-like touch of the Workhorse UFOâ„¢ brakes are some of the persuasive attributes for anyone who drives this chassis."?
Workhorse Custom Chassis
Workhorse Custom Chassis is ISO 9001 certified and a leader in the manufacture of chassis for motor homes, walk-in trucks and buses. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of International Truck and Engine Corporation. International produces IC brand school buses, school bus chassis, mid-range diesel engines, International brand medium and heavy trucks, and severe service vehicles. International also provides parts and service sold under the International® brand. Both Workhorse and International are subsidiaries of Navistar International Corporation (NYSE: NAV). For additional information call 877-294-6773 or visit Workhorse.com.
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I question those braking figures. My 2015 C7 Corvette has a 60-0 stopping distance of 97 feet which is exceptional. The Corvette weighs 3297 lbs and has very large disks along with the widest, stickiest, street legal tires available.
For comparison, a 2015 F150 has a 60-0 stopping distance of 129 feet. The F150 weighs 5160 lbs and has relatively wide all season radial tires.
I don't see how a 26,000 motor home is going to stop just 50 fewer feet than an F150 or 90 feet less than a Corvette.
Here's some other cars performance in a 60-0 stop.
Volvo C30 - 143
Dodge Caliber SXT - 149
Nissan Cube S - 149
Toyota Camry Hybrid - 145
Cadillac DTS Luxury II - 145
Jeep Liberty Sport - 150
Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara - 150
