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Oct 04, 2015

Travato or Roadtrek

Planning to buy either a Travato 59K, or a Roadtrek 170 Versatile. I will use it with my wife to do some traveling out west to see all the stuff, national parks etc, that we have never seen. (we are retired). I have owned several RV's, but my wife has never been as enthusiastic as me. Plan is to stay in hotels, and have the van just for the toilet, fridge, and a place to take a quick nap while driving. I will still use the RV by myself, to go camping with the dog from time to time. I do that in state parks near our home in the Atlanta area.

The bath arrangement in the Travato is obviously more roomy, and doesn't require anything special to use. Also twin beds are convenient and comfy. Roadtrek is two feet shorter, and has somewhere to sit for a passenger other than the front passenger seat. Also, the Roadtrek looks more like a conversion van than an
RV. If anyone owns either one, what have you liked best about it, and what are the shortcomings?

Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences with these RVs

CT51

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I will use it with my wife to do some traveling out west to see all the stuff, national parks etc, that we have never seen. (we are retired). I have owned several RV's, but my wife has never been as enthusiastic as me. Plan is to stay in hotels, and have the van just for the toilet, fridge, and a place to take a quick nap while driving. I will still use the RV by myself, to go camping with the dog from time to time. I do that in state parks near our home in the Atlanta area.

The bath arrangement in the Travato is obviously more roomy, and doesn't require anything special to use. Also twin beds are convenient and comfy. Roadtrek is two feet shorter, and has somewhere to sit for a passenger other than the front passenger seat. Also, the Roadtrek looks more like a conversion van than an
RV. If anyone owns either one, what have you liked best about it, and what are the shortcomings?

Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences with these RVs

CT51","body@stringLength":"1073","rawBody":"Planning to buy either a Travato 59K, or a Roadtrek 170 Versatile. I will use it with my wife to do some traveling out west to see all the stuff, national parks etc, that we have never seen. (we are retired). I have owned several RV's, but my wife has never been as enthusiastic as me. Plan is to stay in hotels, and have the van just for the toilet, fridge, and a place to take a quick nap while driving. I will still use the RV by myself, to go camping with the dog from time to time. I do that in state parks near our home in the Atlanta area.

The bath arrangement in the Travato is obviously more roomy, and doesn't require anything special to use. Also twin beds are convenient and comfy. Roadtrek is two feet shorter, and has somewhere to sit for a passenger other than the front passenger seat. Also, the Roadtrek looks more like a conversion van than an
RV. If anyone owns either one, what have you liked best about it, and what are the shortcomings?

Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences with these RVs

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I'm in total agreement with not liking hotels, but after 39 years of marriage, and 20 years of RVing with me being the most enthused, that's just what it is. Also, this is for some particular trips that involve a great deal of driving, so while we may sleep in it some, the driving ease is the priority for me. Still leaning towards the Travato 59K for the openness, and the twin beds. Looked at the Zion, but didn't like the bathroom in the front, or the bath arrangement. Might look at it again though. Plan to order something in the next 30 days, have all winter to get it right, and then head out late spring.

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I suspect, when your wife gets into that van, she is not going to want to pack up and move into a hotel room. The best advice we got when we were looking, is to purchase the largest B we could afford. We purchased a 21' Sprinter Van and have never been sorry. Ours is a Roadtrek and I doubt we would ever look any where else.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-10-06T03:22:49.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-10-06T03:22:49.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":922},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1943745/message:1943756","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:6475":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:6475","uid":6475,"login":"gerrym51","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2007-07-31T06:40:00.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:6475"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1943755":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1943755","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1943755":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:6475"},"id":"message:1943755","revisionNum":1,"uid":1943755,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1943745"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1943745"},"subject":"Re: Travato or Roadtrek","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1943755"},"body":"look into the roadtrek Zion SRT the short zion promaster with the 170 bed","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"74","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-10-05T20:21:00.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-10-05T20:21:00.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":921},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1943745/message:1943755","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:224442":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:224442","uid":224442,"login":"1775","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2009-09-30T14:40:35.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:224442"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1943754":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1943754","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1943754":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:224442"},"id":"message:1943754","revisionNum":1,"uid":1943754,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1943745"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1943745"},"subject":"Re: Travato or Roadtrek","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1943754"},"body":"
CT51 wrote:
Planning to buy either a Travato 59K, or a Roadtrek 170 Versatile. I will use it with my wife to do some traveling out west to see all the stuff, national parks etc, that we have never seen. (we are retired). I have owned several RV's, but my wife has never been as enthusiastic as me. Plan is to stay in hotels, and have the van just for the toilet, fridge, and a place to take a quick nap while driving. I will still use the RV by myself, to go camping with the dog from time to time. I do that in state parks near our home in the Atlanta area.

The bath arrangement in the Travato is obviously more roomy, and doesn't require anything special to use. Also twin beds are convenient and comfy. Roadtrek is two feet shorter, and has somewhere to sit for a passenger other than the front passenger seat. Also, the Roadtrek looks more like a conversion van than an
RV. If anyone owns either one, what have you liked best about it, and what are the shortcomings?

Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences with these RVs

CT51



You are comparing the smallest Roadtrek - the 170 to the Travato. The Roadtrek Zion is built on the same Dodge Promaster chassis as the Travato. The Roadtrek 190 has the two feet that is missing from the 190. If you want it longer then there is the 210. It is more fair to compare a more similarly sized Roadtrek to the Travato. The Travatos have their advantages and disadvantages and so do the Roadtreks. I am not saying to buy a Roadtrek - just compare closely equal RVs. My personal opinion of the Travato when I saw a G in person was that it was much too cramped inside compared to my 190. When I first went inside a 170 I came back out in a minute because of how close it was inside. Don't go by videos and photos. All of the companies that film the Bs have a talent for making small look spacious. Go to an RV show and see them all in the same place to compare - or go to a dealer with a Travato and then go to a Roadtrek dealer and make a much better decision. You might also want to look at some small Cs (sometimes called B+s) as you will get more room inside.

If you are planning on staying in hotels you are spending a lot of money for a bathroom and fridge to use to stop along the road. The idea with any Class B - or any RV is that you never need to go into a hotel again.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-10-05T16:47:32.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-10-05T16:47:32.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":919},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1943745/message:1943754","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:347242":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:347242","uid":347242,"login":"NoVa_RT","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2013-08-28T17:15:01.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:347242"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1943753":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1943753","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1943753":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:347242"},"id":"message:1943753","revisionNum":1,"uid":1943753,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1943745"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1943745"},"subject":"Re: Travato or Roadtrek","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1943753"},"body":"
Planning to buy either a Travato 59K, or a Roadtrek 170 Versatile.

I'm not sure why the OP is limiting his choice to just those 2 models, but if he's going to use his RV primarily to travel in style while staying in hotels, the RT 170 should be easier & more economical to drive & park. If his only camping is on his solo trips without his wife, perhaps the 170 is large enough, although I found the 190 a better fit personally. In any event, I'd look at them all, or as many as possible, either in person or online, before deciding.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-10-05T12:01:00.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-10-05T12:01:00.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":921},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1943745/message:1943753","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:79198":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:79198","uid":79198,"login":"bsinmich","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2000-11-18T10:49:10.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:79198"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1943752":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1943752","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1943752":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:79198"},"id":"message:1943752","revisionNum":1,"uid":1943752,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1943745"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1943745"},"subject":"Re: Travato or Roadtrek","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1943752"},"body":"I have a 190V that I bought from my 6'3\" neighbor. The crossways bed is only 5'11\" and after he tried it one night he put it up for sale. Being 5'9\" I fit.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"157","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-10-05T06:02:06.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-10-05T06:02:06.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":921},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1943745/message:1943752","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:140465":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:140465","uid":140465,"login":"tbirdman","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2014-08-13T18:04:23.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:140465"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1943751":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1943751","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1943751":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:140465"},"id":"message:1943751","revisionNum":1,"uid":1943751,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1943745"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1943745"},"subject":"Re: Travato or Roadtrek","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1943751"},"body":"Seems like a small van would be a lot less expensive than a conversion van if you plan to stay in hotels. With the money you save you could stay in some very nice hotel. Install a small fridge if you want one, but plenty of places for restrooms.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2015-10-04T21:54:34.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2015-10-04T21:54:34.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":926},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"grouphub:Motorhomes/category:TRAVELCENTER/community:feyqc97479board:Motorhomesforum-board/message:1943745/message:1943751","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"User:user:1348":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:1348","uid":1348,"login":"eric1514","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2007-09-10T06:05:10.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:1348"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:1943750":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:1943750","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:1943750":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1348"},"id":"message:1943750","revisionNum":1,"uid":1943750,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:Motorhomesforum-board"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:1943745"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:1943745"},"subject":"Re: Travato or Roadtrek","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:1943750"},"body":"We bought the B because I needed my wife to share the driving. We take long trips and she wouldn't drive the C we had. She has probably logged as many miles behind the wheel as I have. It is very easy to drive and very maneuverable. It has typical RV rattles and noises. Very quiet on smooth freeways, less so on pot holed city streets. Some is Promaster, some is Winnebago.

The tank arrangements on the \"k\" are better than on the \"g\". The Truma HW and heat system now comes on both the \"g\" and the \"k\". I've heard no complaints.

We like the layout of the \"g\" mainly because there is more than one place to be in the van. If someone goes to bed, the other can stay up at the dinette or the front seats. And I like sleeping next to my wife.

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I'm leaning towards the Travato. The simple holding tank arrangement of the 59K appeals to me. Black tank is directly under the toilet, and gravity drains like most RV's. Also, sleeping arrangement is much more convenient (for me and the dog). I think the fridge is a compressor type, meaning it only works on 120 or 12 volt. That is why all 59K's you see have the solar panel. Also, I'm not familiar with the new heat and hot water system, but it sounds like a positive. How does yours drive? Wind noise, rattles etc? I've had class A's and class C's, and the rattles, squeaks, creaks, etc are a problem for me. Hoping a simple van with no slides or added body structure will not generate so many offensive noises.

Thanks,

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