Wow you guys are the best. I must clarify the 5 people are my wife, myself, two teenage boys and a 12 year old young lady. The more i read the more i'm thinking about leaving the Subaru at home. uber or a rental will do. We really like the Jayco 31FS Redhawk. So much for a used unit, once the DW looked at the New Jayco's she is all in for a new unit. Still we dont rush into anything and will still be looking for advice on options and such that go along with a new purchase. Thanks to everyone who responded and keep them coming!