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Jun 10, 2015

Warning re Winnebago touch up paint not drying

A year ago, I ordered touch up paint for my 2008 from Lichtsinn along with other parts. Lichtsinn said they get the touch up paint directly from Winnebago, who said it was ChromaBase.. The good news was that the Medium Parchment, #775157, was a good match for the tan storage doors. The bad news was that even months later the touch up paint had not dried - it would wipe off with a paper towel.

I guessed that someone at Winnebago made a mistake and filled the touch up bottles with 2-component paint (which requires an activator to cure). So I ordered another bottle. It looked the same but also didn’t dry.

The folks at Lichtsinn were great and called Winnebago to ask what’s up. Someone at Winnebago said “If you apply it thin enough it will dry.“

That’s absurd. On my test pieces, the paint is about 4 mils (0.004 inch) thick and still smears after 10 days.

Perhaps at some point somebody at Winnebago screwed up and stopped selling lacquer based touch up paints (which DupliColor and all other I know of are).

So this post is to warn you about buying touch up paint from Winnebago (at least the Medium Parchment - perhaps they still use lacquer for other colors) or let you know what’s the problem if you did buy from them and it doesn’t dry.

And if anyone has a good experience with a different supplier of touch up paint bottles, that would be appreciated.

My only other option is buying and mixing activator, making the paint a one-time use.

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  • Finally found someone at Winnebago that cared enough to talk to the painters who fill the touch up bottles.

    They said the 775157 was Imron and the newer 775157k is ChromaBase.(DuPont - now Axalta.)
    Neither will air dry. They'll stay wet.

    An activator (hardener) needs to be added (at about 16:1 - so just a drop). I'll next obtain some isocyanate hardener and see if how well that works.

    If I have success, I'll post.
  • Garry, thanks - good point.

    Called CDI, good people but they only do the full body paint on Winnebagos and do not make the touch up bottles for colors this.

    CDI did provide some valuable info on repairing/refinishing failed (crazed) Vetrolite sides. I'll post that under a prior post re Vetrolite.

    5 calls to Winnebago so far resulting in contradictory answers so I'll post when I know the answer.
  • Not a paint expert but I found out if you put on a second coat "before" the 1st coat is thoroughly dry then the 1st coat may never really dry.
  • Scott,

    I'm sure you're right that neither Winnie nor other coach builders use lacquer. Auto makers gave up using lacquer in the late seventies.

    You brought up an important distinction: touch ups that are sprayed by CDI or others are almost certainly not lacquer, most likely 2 part enamels.

    However, touch up paint in bottles has been lacquer for decades because it air dries quickly.

    Thank you for alerting me to CDI. I then found the Paint_Code_Manual-Itasca on the web. I'll call CDI and will post what I learn.

    P.S. The (blue)paint applied by CDI has held up perfectly to 7 years of Florida sun.
  • Spotrot.
    I'm by far no expert but, have done a bit of painting in my life. It appears you may have some experience at it too. Now, I've got two complete sets of touch up paints for our coach. For some reason, the previous owner ordered two sets. There's four colors in each set plus a clear coating bottle too.

    I've had the need to use one of the colors to paint a new dryer vent cover that had blown off during one or our trips. I didn't mix any activators or, enhancers, or orange peel eliminators etc. I just poured some of the color, directly into an air-brush setup and, shot away. It seemed to be dry to the touch in an hour or, maybe two or so. I let it sit anyways for about a day or two then, applied some clear coat that was sent also with the color pack.

    Now, you mentioned "Lacquer" in your original statements. I'm not sure but, I'd just about bet that Winne, Itasca and many other coach builders don't use any Lacquer in any of their lineup of paints. As you more than likely know, Lacquer is a strong chemical when it's wet. It will actually loosen some paints and wrinkle the bottom layer if, the bottom layer is not a stronger based or, ultimately cured paint. Seen it happed a few times.

    But, I'm not sure just why your paint is not curing. Something's missing in the mix. The company that Winne and Itasca use is called: CDI Paint. It's right next door to Winnebago. It's where many of the folks who attended the last GNR at Winnebago last year, had touch up work done while there.

    You are right in the fact that in many paints that are two part, there needs to be an activator. But, I suspect that, they accomplish the two part activation in either another way because they do send out color packs to customers that ask for them. And, if all of the color packs had paints that did not dry like yours, I also suspect that there would more possible complaints on here about the same results.

    This is all just a guess at your situation and, my explanation of what's going on. My thoughts here might be for you to try and get a hold of CDI themselves and get it right from the horses mouth on what the issue is. Let us know what you find out, if you would.
    Scott
  • RE Heat Gun: It was in the Florida sun - panels get so hot that you can't touch them!

    And to be more precise, the ChromaBase is supposed to be mixed 1:1 with their (Axalta - ex-DuPont) selection of BaseMakers.
  • Maybe that's what's wrong with my colored roof edges. They had to apply it so thin to dry it wore off.