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timtune
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Dec 04, 2017

Where will we sleep?

My wife and I are looking to buy a small (21ftish) used class C motorhome. Our plan is to tow our motorcycle in a small enclosed trailer and then live in the camper for a 1-3 weeks at a time while we ride, and explore the local roads. We in our mid-50's and both in good health.

We have been looking at campers with a permanent bed in the back vs one where the table needs to drop down to create a sleeping area. We don't want to have to turn our bed into a table and our table into a bed every day.

So far we have assumed we won't be interested in sleeping in the bed up front over the "cockpit". Less head room & the need to climb up there we figured it was really just for kids.

Now I'm having second thoughts. Wondering if that's a perfectly legitimate place for 2 adults to sleep. If so it really opens up many options we could consider.

Lastly, if pulling a small trailer will we need a dually?
  • Get a rv with a bed, if not you will be trying to sell the 21' unit and buying a bigger one. Go with one with at least a corner queen bed. Dick
  • timtune wrote:
    We don't want to have to turn our bed into a table and our table into a bed every day.

    Very wise move. That gets OLD, real quick.
  • theres a lot of small C,s with bed in the rear, ours is a leisure travel van 25ft and suits two people just fine www.leisurevans.com and the fuel mpg are great.
  • Tim,

    You did not mention what your budget is, and if considering used or well used.

    I ask because a 21-22 foot Starflyte made 1997-2005 has a double bed on the main floor, and a tiny dinette where a folding chair for person #2 works. My brother and his wife own one.

    Our 10 year old rig HERE is 23'-8" long, with a standard dinette and main-floor standard double bed. It is as short and scaled-down as we could find in 2007 yet having all features "practical". Phoenix USA continues to offer our model with and without a slide out.
  • Travel Trailers here....no Class C experience, but...
    Previous trailers - we did not like the, "make up the table into a bed routine," and really did not like the corner bed configuration either.

    So we continued to change trailers and loose money to depreciation (slow learners I guess). Don't make the same mistake.
  • For towing a trailer, you need sufficient rear axle capacity to support the tongue weight of the trailer plus the RV loaded for travel. That really depends on the trailer and the RV in question. (Keep in mind that the long rear overhang of most class C's means that the force of the tongue weight will be multiplied somewhat on the rear axle due to the motorhome acting as a lever. That's assuming you don't have a weight distributing hitch, which is a pretty safe assumption.) Practically speaking, that generally will imply a dual rear wheel setup, but the reverse is not necessarily true; not all class C's with dallies can safely tow an enclosed trailer with a couple of motorcycles (which is what, maybe 2000 or so pounds total?). Also be sure to check the tongue weight ratings of the hitch system; sometimes it's relatively limited.

    The overcab sleeping area can be reasonably comfortable, but it does have the limitations you describe: less headroom, the need to clamber up and down, and for two people the need for one to crawl over the other should they go up or down in the wrong order (or need to make a bathroom run in the night). I don't find mine particularly obnoxious to use, at least for one person, though I'm a little younger than you are.

    The rear bed is more convenient and is, or at least can be, more comfortable: there's more space for a nice seamless mattress. It's much easier to make, particularly nice if you don't care to use a sleeping bag.

    Do you have particular reasons to especially want a short RV? They do have some advantages, which at times can be very important--such as if you have a garage or parking pad that is only so long. However, some of the things that people think would be advantages are really not much different, such as the ease of driving one down the road or getting noticeably better fuel mileage.
  • Our new MH is a "22" model number but measures 24'. Several mfr have 24' models with either corner bed or, like ours, east/west bed in a slide. Floorplans like ours mean a 2 piece mattress but we've slept on it for 2 trips now and find it comfortable. We don't even notice/feel the seam where the 2 pieces met. We would not want to do the table every night either!!!

    PS - I'm mid 50's and wife ain't tellin' :)