OhhWell wrote:So I guess I am should only be worried about the middle class identity thief. The good ones defeat Target's POS systems and the bad ones comb through trash dumpsters. Since there has never been a verified incident of any RVer being compromised through a park's wifi ever posted on these forums, I am going to assume the theoretical risk is just that, a risk in theory only.bigdogger wrote:OhhWell wrote:After you shifted through gigabyte after gigabyte of family vacation pictures and millions of e-mails saying "I miss you Gramdma and Grandpa" you might be ready to kill yourself. Even if you were able to compromise the wifi system of a "smaller" RV park, the odds are you are going to steal the account information of accounts that hold miniscule amounts of money in the grand scheme of things. You might make the account holders life miserable for a week or two as they go through the fraud recovery minefield, but you won't be transferring millions of dollars with a series of untraceable transactions into your secret offshore bank account and then skipping the country to Bolivia to live the sweet life. You are almost assuredly not going to be compromised through a campground's router, the risk versus reward equation is out of whack.jerseyjim wrote:
Over the past 12 years, I've used TENGONET (paid) at a few campgrounds and never had a problem....even when paying my bills.
For the past few years, I have a VERIZON Mi-Fi and use that. Sometimes the Mi-Fi hits a "dead spot" (like parts of Texas) where I used (twice) the KOA connection...and even then, no problems.
Am I lucky?
My laptop has CCleaner, Malwarebytes and Norton. I'm presuming these 3 do the protection? I am under the impression that my bank site is encrypted.
Tengonet is a professional setup and should be just fine. I've said that it is highly unlikely that you would be taken while using a campground WIFI but in a lot of the smaller parks it would be really easy. My god, it would be such a perfect situation. If I were of lesser moral fiber, I could make a killing.
Ok sure. Believe that all you want. The risk would be apprehension by the authorities depending on what you did with the information obtained by the pharming and how sloppy you were in setting up your own DNS server. Your comment about sifting through gigs of personal pictures shows that you don't understand how it would work. Also, a person wouldn't have to have much in the bank in this day and age, just a good credit score.
The people that mentioned using a VPN are smart. It's just one of those things: the odds are low that you could get hit but I don't quite see the upside of telling people not to worry about it.
SolidAxleDurango wrote:
(snip) I'm SAFETYER than all those internet users!
SolidAxleDurango wrote:Sarcasm noted. :)
I am a skeptic.... I take the ONLY secure way.... I pay with a REAL CHECK... like REAL MEN do..
wa8yxm wrote:Finally..some real data. Thank you.
Odds that that someone was YOU 1 in 313.9 Million... Source Google.
bigdogger wrote:
After you shifted through gigabyte after gigabyte of family vacation pictures and millions of e-mails saying "I miss you Gramdma and Grandpa" you might be ready to kill yourself. Even if you were able to compromise the wifi system of a "smaller" RV park, the odds are you are going to steal the account information of accounts that hold miniscule amounts of money in the grand scheme of things. You might make the account holders life miserable for a week or two as they go through the fraud recovery minefield, but you won't be transferring millions of dollars with a series of untraceable transactions into your secret offshore bank account and then skipping the country to Bolivia to live the sweet life. You are almost assuredly not going to be compromised through a campground's router, the risk versus reward equation is out of whack.
bigdogger wrote:OhhWell wrote:After you shifted through gigabyte after gigabyte of family vacation pictures and millions of e-mails saying "I miss you Gramdma and Grandpa" you might be ready to kill yourself. Even if you were able to compromise the wifi system of a "smaller" RV park, the odds are you are going to steal the account information of accounts that hold miniscule amounts of money in the grand scheme of things. You might make the account holders life miserable for a week or two as they go through the fraud recovery minefield, but you won't be transferring millions of dollars with a series of untraceable transactions into your secret offshore bank account and then skipping the country to Bolivia to live the sweet life. You are almost assuredly not going to be compromised through a campground's router, the risk versus reward equation is out of whack.jerseyjim wrote:
Over the past 12 years, I've used TENGONET (paid) at a few campgrounds and never had a problem....even when paying my bills.
For the past few years, I have a VERIZON Mi-Fi and use that. Sometimes the Mi-Fi hits a "dead spot" (like parts of Texas) where I used (twice) the KOA connection...and even then, no problems.
Am I lucky?
My laptop has CCleaner, Malwarebytes and Norton. I'm presuming these 3 do the protection? I am under the impression that my bank site is encrypted.
Tengonet is a professional setup and should be just fine. I've said that it is highly unlikely that you would be taken while using a campground WIFI but in a lot of the smaller parks it would be really easy. My god, it would be such a perfect situation. If I were of lesser moral fiber, I could make a killing.
OhhWell wrote:After you shifted through gigabyte after gigabyte of family vacation pictures and millions of e-mails saying "I miss you Gramdma and Grandpa" you might be ready to kill yourself. Even if you were able to compromise the wifi system of a "smaller" RV park, the odds are you are going to steal the account information of accounts that hold miniscule amounts of money in the grand scheme of things. You might make the account holders life miserable for a week or two as they go through the fraud recovery minefield, but you won't be transferring millions of dollars with a series of untraceable transactions into your secret offshore bank account and then skipping the country to Bolivia to live the sweet life. You are almost assuredly not going to be compromised through a campground's router, the risk versus reward equation is out of whack.jerseyjim wrote:
Over the past 12 years, I've used TENGONET (paid) at a few campgrounds and never had a problem....even when paying my bills.
For the past few years, I have a VERIZON Mi-Fi and use that. Sometimes the Mi-Fi hits a "dead spot" (like parts of Texas) where I used (twice) the KOA connection...and even then, no problems.
Am I lucky?
My laptop has CCleaner, Malwarebytes and Norton. I'm presuming these 3 do the protection? I am under the impression that my bank site is encrypted.
Tengonet is a professional setup and should be just fine. I've said that it is highly unlikely that you would be taken while using a campground WIFI but in a lot of the smaller parks it would be really easy. My god, it would be such a perfect situation. If I were of lesser moral fiber, I could make a killing.
GlennLever wrote:SolidAxleDurango wrote:
I am a skeptic.... I take the ONLY secure way.... I pay with a REAL CHECK... like REAL MEN do....
I mean... what's safer than that? I stay off the internet all together as it relates to personal finances.
In order to avoid all of the insecure shenanigans out there, I drop a personal check in the mail. A check that has my name, home address, account number (of whom i'm mailing the check to), bank account number, bank routing number, and my original signature on it!!!! AND after it leaves my hot little hand, it passes through untold hands of some of this countries lowest wage workers... and then SITS unattended in a box someplace until someone retrieves it.
I'm SAFETYER than all those internet users!
Interesting, ever heard of check washing?
SolidAxleDurango wrote:
I am a skeptic.... I take the ONLY secure way.... I pay with a REAL CHECK... like REAL MEN do....
I mean... what's safer than that? I stay off the internet all together as it relates to personal finances.
In order to avoid all of the insecure shenanigans out there, I drop a personal check in the mail. A check that has my name, home address, account number (of whom i'm mailing the check to), bank account number, bank routing number, and my original signature on it!!!! AND after it leaves my hot little hand, it passes through untold hands of some of this countries lowest wage workers... and then SITS unattended in a box someplace until someone retrieves it.
I'm SAFETYER than all those internet users!
