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dturm
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Feb 28, 2020

Coronavirus

I thought I’d share some thoughts about the coronavirus threat that is occupying the news now. I’m not convinced we’ll get accurate information as some deny there is a threat while others may tend to sensationalize the threat.

There are many coronavirus species that are pathogenic to specific species. Dogs have two major ones, an enteric one and a respiratory one. This COVID-19 is not one of these. Your dog has may have been vaccinated against the enteric coronavirus as it is frequently a part of the distemper vaccination.

There is no evidence that the COVID-19 is pathogenic to our pets or can be carried by them (except as a fomite – I’ll discuss that later).

I’ve had some epidemiological training and from the information now available the threat is real. This virus is a novel strain, that means that no one in the world population has any immunity. This is a situation ripe for rapid, world wide spread. We have no ability to isolate communities where the virus is currently present and with air travel, it’s just a matter of time before it spreads.

We don’t know enough about this virus now. We do know it can spread from person to person and it is thought that cough and touch are probably the methods of spread.

The major factor that scares me is that it appears you don’t have to be symptomatic to spread the virus. This means that containment will be just about impossible.

Mortality is thought to be about 2 % but we don’t know for sure because China has not been open with statistics.

We don’t need to panic, but some simple precautions are in order. I usually try to use the sanitizing wipes on carts at the grocery, but I don’t every time. Now I will. And I’ll regularly use hand sanitizer.

It’s probably a good idea to avoid large crowds. Wash your hands frequently. Avoid sick people. Use hand sanitizer when handling doors, money or any unknown surface.

Avoid touching your eyes, mouth and nose. I’m not going to wear a mask, but that is an option if you are sick to avoid spread to others. You should try to stock your medications as much as possible as supply chains of medications could be at risk.

If you start to feel sick and run a fever, contact a doctor and avoid contact with other people or your pets. Sneeze or cough droplets can settle on any surface (your dog or cat) and they can become a physical vehicle for spreading the virus (fomite).

Those of you with more knowledge and training feel free to respond here. If you have questions, please ask.

If you have political comments, go somewhere else.

Doug, DVM

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  • BCSnob wrote:
    The cdc info on the flu sounds very similar to what the cdc is saying about covid-19 including asymptotic flu infections.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/keyfacts.htm


    The difference is that there may be some cross immunity with different strains of flu and the COVID-19 is a novel pathogen and nobody has antibody present in their bodies.
  • He said it was unclear whether the dog had actually contracted the virus or tested positive for low levels due to environmental contamination of the dog's mouth and nose.


    I'm sure there are going to stories like this, the evidence now is that this strain is not pathogenic to dogs. That could change with more information, but I suspect if this was an issue we would already know it.
  • The cdc info on the flu sounds very similar to what the cdc is saying about covid-19 including asymptotic flu infections.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/keyfacts.htm
  • dturm wrote:


    The major factor that scares me is that it appears you don’t have to be symptomatic to spread the virus. This means that containment will be just about impossible.

    Mortality is thought to be about 2 % but we don’t know for sure because China has not been open with statistics.

    We don’t need to panic, but some simple precautions are in order. I usually try to use the sanitizing wipes on carts at the grocery, but I don’t every time. Now I will. And I’ll regularly use hand sanitizer.



    Thank you, Dr Doug - on the news yesterday (CNBC) they mentioned that a dog had contracted the disease?? But I kind of wonder if it's the CoViD-19, since I've heard there's not many places doing the true determination tests? (Just the CDC?)

    As an aside: since I had NO hand sanitizer here at our FL condo, I figured I should get some, just in case. Amazon was either sold out (!) - or their 3rd party vendors were price gouging (six 2-oz bottle for $50). I went to my local Walgreens, where it was even on sale; and bought a few bottles. Just a head's up for those who are running low on sanitizer.

    Just look at what's happening on CNBC (Wall Street crashing) to see that most people ARE taking the threat of contagion seriously. During flu season, I always ponder where a sick person goes, or what they MUST do; and then really wash my hands after I've been there. Pharmacies, grocery stores, gas stations, ATMs. But it sounds like someone can be walking around feeling just peachy - and they are still sharing CoViD-19 germs. I'm not particularly a germaphobe, but that's a scary thought.

    On edit: here's a link to the article on the dog who showed a "weak positive" Sick dog? but even scarier are the following articles about abandoned pets because their owners are quarantined; or something about dogs being thrown to their death due to fears of coronavirus-19?
  • From what I’ve been reading (from scientific based sources like the cdc) wearing a mask to prevent you from getting sick will have little to no benefit. Those who are sick can reduce the spread of the virus by wearing a mask (stops the spread of droplets during coughing and sneezing).

    Above all know the source of the information you are using is scientifically based.
    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/about/prevention-treatment.html