And this is the Microsoft you want to just

monkey44 wrote:

az99 wrote:
Win 10 is no longer called an OS, it is a service. You continually pay for a service. That is the direction they are leading the sheep. They did not update Win 7 computers to 10 for free because they wanted to reduce profits.

Many of the programs are going to "monthly service" instead of buying the disk or download the program -- Adobe, for example. It forces the photo guys that use Photoshop to pay a monthly fee now, and if you stop paying, you lose the ability to process photos.

I'm not positive about this statement, but I believe in order to use the program while processing, you have to remain on the 'cloud', which means online the entire time. IF that's true (and if it isn't now, it will get there eventually) then any photo guy with limited hotspot data plan (like myself) will eat that plan alive each month.

We're on three PC's with Win7 on all - will never update to Win10 until that "warm place" freezes over. Letting MS into my PC whenever it wants, well, that ain't gonna happen. Period - at least not with me knowing it ...

Adobe's Creative Cloud requires you go on line to the company once every 90 days. After being off line for more than 2 weeks, you get a message letting you know that it hasn't "talked" with your computer. It does not automatically update your software, but lets you know when updates are available, informs you what the update covers, and the size.

The products operate off line with no problems. Although I have not tried going the full 90 days without contact, I used Dreamweaver, Photoshop & Lightroom as well as a number of their other cloud based products while not connected to the internet for weeks at a time.

As to the subscription replacement for yearly updates, I have mixed opinions. I do like the updates & "fixes" that happen more often with the subscription service, and with the amount of Adobe software I use, don't spend more with the Creative Cloud than I did with annual updates of the past, but I have to admit I cringe at the thoughts of the service disappearing. I do keep copies of the last non subscription releases of all the software, but as the new features come along, going back would be tough.

az99 wrote:
Win 10 is no longer called an OS, it is a service. You continually pay for a service. That is the direction they are leading the sheep. They did not update Win 7 computers to 10 for free because they wanted to reduce profits.

Many of the programs are going to "monthly service" instead of buying the disk or download the program -- Adobe, for example. It forces the photo guys that use Photoshop to pay a monthly fee now, and if you stop paying, you lose the ability to process photos.

I'm not positive about this statement, but I believe in order to use the program while processing, you have to remain on the 'cloud', which means online the entire time. IF that's true (and if it isn't now, it will get there eventually) then any photo guy with limited hotspot data plan (like myself) will eat that plan alive each month.

We're on three PC's with Win7 on all - will never update to Win10 until that "warm place" freezes over. Letting MS into my PC whenever it wants, well, that ain't gonna happen. Period - at least not with me knowing it ...

NOt a problem for me
1: I have 3rd party MPEG support
2: I have taped over the web cam (I do not use it) if I need a camera I use the one on my 'droid.

Google - " how to disable win 10 updates permanently". You go in to the registry keys and change the updates to Disable.
Mine has not updated since 11/15 when I called MS and demanded they fix the botched 11/15 update my new computer took. I told them my computer was used at many different RV park wifi's that could not handle large downloads. I also told them that I was not going to remember to go in and block metered connections. I also told them their new POS Win 10 was totally unacceptable with forcing updates. They said they have many complaints about it and may possibly change the update policy.

Win 10 is no longer called an OS, it is a service. You continually pay for a service. That is the direction they are leading the sheep. They did not update Win 7 computers to 10 for free because they wanted to reduce profits.

My latest WIN 10 updates all came on August 8 2016. I don't see anything here related to the WIN10 Anniversary Update...

I was told I would have to Microsoft and download it myself if I wanted to have it...

How can I tell if I have it or not??? Can you give me the KB number of the WIN 10 Anniversary Update.

AS far as I know all is running fine here. I am running WIN 10 in WIN 7 mode with ICONs down the left side of the main screen with task bar on the botton. The main screen is running several of my Night Scenes in screensaver mode.

Never wanted to have a screen full of active small window tabs of all my programs. I only load up the ones I normally use at startup using bookmarks just like I did in the WIN7 and WIN8.1 days

Everyone that walks in says I thought you changed over to WIn 10 haha

Roy Ken

If you are on a laptop and use wifi just set your wifi connection to "Metered" and no updates will be done until you authorize them. Easy to do. When the big one year anniversary of W10 came out recently I held off with the install since it was approx 3.5 gb download. I went to a public free wifi and d/l it there.

You can take full control of windows 10 update options in several ways, easiest it to use the windows policy editor to enable all of the same options you had back in windows 7 or simply disable update service.

Here's one set of instructions, I haven't tested this specific sites instructions as I created .reg files to setup my machines:

http://mspoweruser.com/turn-off-windows-update-windows-10/

Your preachin' to a crowd of update zombies on this forum..

Folks now days are completely oblivious to losing control of privacy, data and now what someone else allows to exist on the PC they paid for..

I am still running XP, have a couple of "sevens" which I disabled windows update the moment they started forcing and coercing people with the 10 nagware updates..

No plans to dump 10 on anything of mine until some third party folks get the #10 monster under control.. Someone WILL figure away to bullet proof it from the heavy handed forced everything for your own good nannies..

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I just can not have an update screw everything up. I have a LOT of old software programs and when you allow an update that's when everything crashes. THEY assume you are running everything new and IMHO JMHO these new updates do not address older versions of stuff on your computer.

I keep every and all things that say 'auto' update. SHUT OFF. :C