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CA_Traveler
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Sep 14, 2013

DTV DNS and SD/HD Locals

I live in the Phoenix area and move the receiver to the RV for the summer. I'm planning to apply for DNS for the West coast channels when we're in the RV for the summer and want the Phoenix locals when we return to Phoenix. I would appreciate any input on this subject.

Currently I call to get the locals where I'm located which is in Brisbane, CA right now. The process is quick and easy if I give them a previously established address which they have on file. It's longer if they have to look up a new address.

With my SF locals I didn't receive them in Oregon. HD is somewhat new in the RV and the next day I enabled the SD channels and now get SF SD. So my question is: Is there any information on SD vs HD local coverage? In the past just trying to figure out local SD coverage was limited but thought I'd ask about HD coverage.

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  • Bill_Satellite's avatar
    Bill_Satellite
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    Sep 15, 2013
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    The vGPS is just that, a virtual way of gathering GPS (location) information. In theory that would help them improve the signal by being able to determine the required skew as well as helping speed up search times by being able to determine an approx. elevation starting point. The vGPS by itself does nothing to improve the signal but the information provided to the controller by the vGPS helps get the antenna pointed.
  • schneid's avatar
    schneid
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    Sep 15, 2013
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    CA Traveler wrote:
    Clarification: Well the website says the vGPS is for faster acquisition. RF Mogul told me that it improves the signal.


    I doubt it affects signal anymore than 110 and 119 wing does on the SL5. Don't forget the signal is not dead-on but comes from above the dish plane and reflected to the LNB's below the dish plane.
  • CA_Traveler's avatar
    CA_Traveler
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    Sep 15, 2013
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    Clarification: Well the website says the vGPS is for faster acquisition. RF Mogul told me that it improves the signal.
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    CA_Traveler
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    schneid wrote:
    Exactly or at least close enough for most of us. Wonder what the little sidecar mounted to the DirecTV SL3s does on RF Mogul?
    I believe you are referring to the vGPS module and I have the same question. On the website is says patent pending.

    RF Mogul told me that moving it for version 1.59 would improve the signal. I never had a signal problem so can't confirm that. I've wondered if it's related to positioning the dish?
  • schneid's avatar
    schneid
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    Bill.Satellite wrote:
    wilanddij wrote:
    I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
    RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV patents.


    Just a bit of clarification. There is no relationship between RF Mogul and MotoSAT. The current owners of RF Mogul started MotoSAT and sold the business a few years back. The new owners did not handle it well and had to close their doors.
    Also, the Slimline is the name of a DirecTV antenna used by many company's including Winegard.


    Exactly or at least close enough for most of us. Wonder what the little sidecar mounted to the DirecTV SL3s does on RF Mogul?
  • Bill_Satellite's avatar
    Bill_Satellite
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    wilanddij wrote:
    I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
    RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV patents.


    Just a bit of clarification. There is no relationship between RF Mogul and MotoSAT. The current owners of RF Mogul started MotoSAT and sold the business a few years back. The new owners did not handle it well and had to close their doors.
    Also, the Slimline is the name of a DirecTV antenna used by many company's including Winegard.
  • schneid's avatar
    schneid
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    wilanddij wrote:
    I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
    RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV patents.


    Slimline is a DirecTV product. Wingard uses both genuine DirecTV Slimlines and SL3s LNB's on their SK-SWM:

    SolidSignal

    SpecSheet for RF Mogul SWM shows a DirecTV branded SL3s:

    http://rfmogul.com/files/52089733.pdf

    Maybe they stamp their own dishes but sounds more cost effective to buy already engineered ones.
  • CA_Traveler's avatar
    CA_Traveler
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    Sep 15, 2013
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    wilanddij wrote:
    I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
    RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV patents.
    The input that I got was some of the better employees formed a new company when Monosat got a new CEO and both companies existed for a time. Eventually RF Mogul took over the Monosat repairs.

    The RF Mogul design is completely different. My usage has been rock solid. They only support SWM for DTV and I believe that is also true for the other providers.

    Field replaceable parts and firmware is another advantgate. I recently upgraded to version 1.59. I downloaded the file onto my camera card, inserted the card into the controller and rebooted. Later the vGPS module was moved, a few switches on the controller were changed at that time and this improved the signal level.

    Not that we had any signal level issues. This summer we used the dish on the Alaskan Highway and Alaska with the vGPS in it's original position.
  • wilanddij's avatar
    wilanddij
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    I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
    RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV patents.

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CA Traveler wrote:
Clarification: Well the website says the vGPS is for faster acquisition. RF Mogul told me that it improves the signal.


I doubt it affects signal anymore than 110 and 119 wing does on the SL5. Don't forget the signal is not dead-on but comes from above the dish plane and reflected to the LNB's below the dish plane.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-09-15T11:24:19.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-09-15T11:24:19.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":351},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:692662/message:692677","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"376","rawBody":"
CA Traveler wrote:
Clarification: Well the website says the vGPS is for faster acquisition. RF Mogul told me that it improves the signal.


I doubt it affects signal anymore than 110 and 119 wing does on the SL5. Don't forget the signal is not dead-on but comes from above the dish plane and reflected to the LNB's below the dish plane.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:692677_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:692676":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:692676","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:692676":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:276474"},"id":"message:692676","revisionNum":1,"uid":692676,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:692662"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:692662"},"subject":"Re: DTV DNS and SD/HD Locals","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:692676"},"body":"Clarification: Well the website says the vGPS is for faster acquisition. RF Mogul told me that it improves the signal.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"118","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-09-15T10:37:14.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-09-15T10:37:14.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":351},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:692662/message:692676","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"118","rawBody":"Clarification: Well the website says the vGPS is for faster acquisition. RF Mogul told me that it improves the signal.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:692676_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:692675":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:692675","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:692675":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:276474"},"id":"message:692675","revisionNum":1,"uid":692675,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:692662"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:692662"},"subject":"Re: DTV DNS and SD/HD Locals","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:692675"},"body":"
schneid wrote:
Exactly or at least close enough for most of us. Wonder what the little sidecar mounted to the DirecTV SL3s does on RF Mogul?
I believe you are referring to the vGPS module and I have the same question. On the website is says patent pending.

RF Mogul told me that moving it for version 1.59 would improve the signal. I never had a signal problem so can't confirm that. I've wondered if it's related to positioning the dish?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-09-15T10:22:36.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-09-15T10:22:36.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":351},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:692662/message:692675","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"480","rawBody":"
schneid wrote:
Exactly or at least close enough for most of us. Wonder what the little sidecar mounted to the DirecTV SL3s does on RF Mogul?
I believe you are referring to the vGPS module and I have the same question. On the website is says patent pending.

RF Mogul told me that moving it for version 1.59 would improve the signal. I never had a signal problem so can't confirm that. I've wondered if it's related to positioning the dish?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:692675_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:692674":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:692674","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:692674":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:250039"},"id":"message:692674","revisionNum":1,"uid":692674,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:692662"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:692662"},"subject":"Re: DTV DNS and SD/HD Locals","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:692674"},"body":"
Bill.Satellite wrote:
wilanddij wrote:
I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV patents.


Just a bit of clarification. There is no relationship between RF Mogul and MotoSAT. The current owners of RF Mogul started MotoSAT and sold the business a few years back. The new owners did not handle it well and had to close their doors.
Also, the Slimline is the name of a DirecTV antenna used by many company's including Winegard.


Exactly or at least close enough for most of us. Wonder what the little sidecar mounted to the DirecTV SL3s does on RF Mogul?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-09-15T09:48:26.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-09-15T09:48:26.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":351},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:692662/message:692674","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1000","rawBody":"
Bill.Satellite wrote:
wilanddij wrote:
I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV patents.


Just a bit of clarification. There is no relationship between RF Mogul and MotoSAT. The current owners of RF Mogul started MotoSAT and sold the business a few years back. The new owners did not handle it well and had to close their doors.
Also, the Slimline is the name of a DirecTV antenna used by many company's including Winegard.


Exactly or at least close enough for most of us. Wonder what the little sidecar mounted to the DirecTV SL3s does on RF Mogul?","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:692674_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:692673":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:692673","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:692673":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:174774"},"id":"message:692673","revisionNum":1,"uid":692673,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:692662"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:692662"},"subject":"Re: DTV DNS and SD/HD Locals","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:692673"},"body":"
wilanddij wrote:
I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV patents.


Just a bit of clarification. There is no relationship between RF Mogul and MotoSAT. The current owners of RF Mogul started MotoSAT and sold the business a few years back. The new owners did not handle it well and had to close their doors.
Also, the Slimline is the name of a DirecTV antenna used by many company's including Winegard.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-09-15T09:42:26.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-09-15T09:42:26.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":352},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:692662/message:692673","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"810","rawBody":"
wilanddij wrote:
I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV patents.


Just a bit of clarification. There is no relationship between RF Mogul and MotoSAT. The current owners of RF Mogul started MotoSAT and sold the business a few years back. The new owners did not handle it well and had to close their doors.
Also, the Slimline is the name of a DirecTV antenna used by many company's including Winegard.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:692673_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:692672":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:692672","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:692672":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:250039"},"id":"message:692672","revisionNum":1,"uid":692672,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:692662"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:692662"},"subject":"Re: DTV DNS and SD/HD Locals","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:692672"},"body":"
wilanddij wrote:
I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV patents.


Slimline is a DirecTV product. Wingard uses both genuine DirecTV Slimlines and SL3s LNB's on their SK-SWM:

SolidSignal

SpecSheet for RF Mogul SWM shows a DirecTV branded SL3s:

http://rfmogul.com/files/52089733.pdf

Maybe they stamp their own dishes but sounds more cost effective to buy already engineered ones.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-09-15T09:41:26.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-09-15T09:41:26.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":352},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:692662/message:692672","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1219","rawBody":"
wilanddij wrote:
I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV patents.


Slimline is a DirecTV product. Wingard uses both genuine DirecTV Slimlines and SL3s LNB's on their SK-SWM:

SolidSignal

SpecSheet for RF Mogul SWM shows a DirecTV branded SL3s:

http://rfmogul.com/files/52089733.pdf

Maybe they stamp their own dishes but sounds more cost effective to buy already engineered ones.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:692672_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:692671":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:692671","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:692671":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:276474"},"id":"message:692671","revisionNum":1,"uid":692671,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:692662"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:692662"},"subject":"Re: DTV DNS and SD/HD Locals","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:692671"},"body":"
wilanddij wrote:
I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV patents.
The input that I got was some of the better employees formed a new company when Monosat got a new CEO and both companies existed for a time. Eventually RF Mogul took over the Monosat repairs.

The RF Mogul design is completely different. My usage has been rock solid. They only support SWM for DTV and I believe that is also true for the other providers.

Field replaceable parts and firmware is another advantgate. I recently upgraded to version 1.59. I downloaded the file onto my camera card, inserted the card into the controller and rebooted. Later the vGPS module was moved, a few switches on the controller were changed at that time and this improved the signal level.

Not that we had any signal level issues. This summer we used the dish on the Alaskan Highway and Alaska with the vGPS in it's original position.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-09-15T08:32:53.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-09-15T08:32:53.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":351},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:692662/message:692671","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1309","rawBody":"
wilanddij wrote:
I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV patents.
The input that I got was some of the better employees formed a new company when Monosat got a new CEO and both companies existed for a time. Eventually RF Mogul took over the Monosat repairs.

The RF Mogul design is completely different. My usage has been rock solid. They only support SWM for DTV and I believe that is also true for the other providers.

Field replaceable parts and firmware is another advantgate. I recently upgraded to version 1.59. I downloaded the file onto my camera card, inserted the card into the controller and rebooted. Later the vGPS module was moved, a few switches on the controller were changed at that time and this improved the signal level.

Not that we had any signal level issues. This summer we used the dish on the Alaskan Highway and Alaska with the vGPS in it's original position.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:692671_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:2946":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:2946","uid":2946,"login":"wilanddij","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2004-08-10T09:29:38.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:2946"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:692670":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:692670","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:692670":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2946"},"id":"message:692670","revisionNum":1,"uid":692670,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:692662"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:692662"},"subject":"Re: DTV DNS and SD/HD Locals","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:692670"},"body":"
I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV patents.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2013-09-15T06:54:04.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2013-09-15T06:54:04.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":351},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:692662/message:692670","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"410","rawBody":"
I imagine under the paint job your RF Mogul is a Slimline as is the LNB an SL3s. I guess they could have manufactured their own but that would be expensive and might violate DirecTV patents.
RF Mogul is the new name for the Motosat outfit. Slimline is the name of the the dish from Winegard. I doubt RF Mogul is repainting anything from Winegard, and not violating any DirecTV 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