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- dons2346Explorer
Bill.Satellite wrote:
So was FMCA "selling" a plan where there were no contracts in place? How could it go wrong, they only offered the plan in beta to 5000 folks!
Well, you know how it is. When the president stands up and opens his mouth, it is assumed that everything has been completed. To save face, FMCA started selling the plan, most likely at the direction of the president. There is only one person to blame and that is the captain of the ship, not the entire crew aka FMCA staff - Bill_SatelliteExplorer IISo was FMCA "selling" a plan where there were no contracts in place? How could it go wrong, they only offered the plan in beta to 5000 folks!
- dons2346Explorer"Either way, it was just terribly poor planning on FMCA's part. "
Bill, this is an election year for president and Sr.VP of FMCA. There had to be something that could be used for them to say "look what I did for you". The VZ plan was put out during a couple of rallies by the candidates so they could look like a pumped up show dog.
Problem was that the final contracts between VZ and FMCA hadn't been signed. And the rest is history. - Bill_SatelliteExplorer IIRight but then you never know who's telling the truth. If FMCA said they wanted a plan for the FMCA business without mentioning they were going to re-sell the service then FMCA is guilty of fraud. If Verizon did know they were going to re-sell it to their member base, when it went viral and it was discovered than anyone anywhere would be able to join FMCA, this might have been the trigger.
Either way, it was just terribly poor planning on FMCA's part. - mkcExplorerSomeone posted a response from Verizon about it - apparently the contract being negotiated did not permit FMCA to be a reseller, but that's exactly what FMCA was doing.
- wa8yxmExplorer IIII got the official "That did not work out as planned" E-mail from FMCA yesterday
The plan was published in several magazines as well as on line.
Then verizon decided to cancel it.. As someone up-thread said typical of them
One more reason for me to boycott Verizon and advise against them..
Verizon is made up of several companies that merged, one was GTE (I call them Generally Terrible Electronics but the real name is General Telephone and Elecronics.. I have a joke about them but not today)
GTE "Serviced" my parent's 2nd house. and I have assorted horror stories about their cuss-some-more non-service.. I was able to get 'em off their corporate backside and fix an issue once... But I knew what phone number to ask for to light a fire under 'em (Michigan Public Service Commission) seems they FEAR bad reports, and for good reason.
Ok the Joke:
Was having coffee in the DPD Communications floor break room with a DPD officer, he had a coffee cup from Automatic Electric (GTE's manufacturing division) I ask about it "Came with the phone switch gear"
I replied "Man you are good arn't you"
He ask why I said that
I said "Well We can talk to each other and GTE Has yet to make a system that works so you must be good"
He laughed... and agreed. - Dutch_12078Explorer II
magicbus wrote:
Bill.Satellite wrote:
So what am I missing... isn't this just like the AT&T Mobley deal except is costs $30/month more?
Pretty much when they let the dog loose and everyone in the Country could join this plan by paying FMCA $50/month ...
Dave
Not quite... The AT&T Mobley plan doesn't supply the device free unless you sign on for a 2-year contract. And that entails a $45 activation fee that's waived if you buy the Mobley outright at retail with no contract. The Mobley plan is also directly with AT&T, not through a sub-group such as a membership group, school, or corporation. AT&T also put the $20 Mobley plan out there with a stated sign-up expiration date, July 17th as I recall. I suspect the FMCA deal was similar to the Omnilynx school deal with Verizon, which was basically a corporate multi-user contract that allows adding new employees (or members) as needed. The contract wording does place certain limits on adding new subscribers, and it was probably evident pretty quickly that FMCA had no means of controlling or validating the influx of new members that were joining simply to get the plan. That's essentially the same thing that happened to Omnilynx, but in that case they were attempting to use the plan to help offset the costs to the school district, but also couldn't manage the influx of outsiders to Verizon's satisfaction. - lryrob9301Explorer
magicbus wrote:
Bill.Satellite wrote:
So what am I missing... isn't this just like the AT&T Mobley deal except is costs $30/month more?
Pretty much when they let the dog loose and everyone in the Country could join this plan by paying FMCA $50/month ...
Dave
It's somewhat the same except AT&T is a communications company and is willing to use the Mobley as a customer acquisition tool to sell them other services such as DirecTv. Verizon,on the other hand, still thinks of themselves as a phone company monopoly that doesn't have to attract new customers. They are content to price gouge their existing customers because they mistakenly think they have no real competition. If you need proof of this just listen to some of their upper level management in interviews. I have never met a more arrogant, self centered group of SOB's in my life. - magicbusExplorer II
Bill.Satellite wrote:
So what am I missing... isn't this just like the AT&T Mobley deal except is costs $30/month more?
Pretty much when they let the dog loose and everyone in the Country could join this plan by paying FMCA $50/month ...
Dave - Bill_SatelliteExplorer IIPretty much when they let the dog loose and everyone in the Country could join this plan by paying FMCA $50/month it no longer became the plan that was discussed between FMCA and Verizon (my speculation). It became public knowledge on nearly every internet discussion group and I am pretty sure Verizon quickly picked up on that and called it all off.
If for no other reason, it's FMCA's fault in that they should have seen this coming or been more forthcoming with Verizon.
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