Satellite TV is Dead, Direct TV just lost 267,000 customers

the only constant is change.

If you said 10yr, I might buy it. 2 yr...no.

They've got too much invested to walk away while they still have millions of customers.

As someone else mentioned, lots of rural areas have marginal internet access (even with cellular coverage), that will create a captive audience that should keep the satalite companies around for a while longer.

But if I look at coverage and speed 10yr ago, it's night and day different, so very plausible that 10yr from now, it will reach a tipping point where there aren't enough customers to support it.

I'll stick to eating baloney not listening to it. Love my directv. Won't be dropping it anytime soon. I get a chuckle out of some of these posts.

The FCC used to regulate the amount of commercial time in OTA programs. back when i was a kid it was a max of ~6 minutes per hour. these days more like ~18 minutes.

I cut the cord many years ago. I've had Direct and Dish, but what it came down to is you pay them to watch commercials. I've never used a stopwatch, but it seems 50% of the content is commercials, maybe more. I use over the air and supplement with Sling, Netflix, and Amazon. Direct tv in particular has always been a major ripoff. Dish less so. So Direct lost 267,000 customers and Hulu gained about the same. Does kind of seem like a trend.

timmac wrote:

jorbill2or wrote:
Because tv is broadcast via uhf or vhf .. your old antenna was probably a vhf primarily .( most were) .your new “digital”( lol ) antenna is formed to receive uhf waves better as that’s where most new Chanel’s hang out.

Next we can talk about why channel 6 vhf is really channel 49 uhf but tells you it’s channel 6 but I’m done thanks , I’ll watch etc closely for the next two years !

Yes I got it, rk911 taught me its not called digital and a Chevy is a transportation device not a Chevy..

I am glad I now know the proper term..

Thanks rk911

as usual you missing my point. enjoy your world.

And I will update my thread and say Satellite TV is Not Dead..

Its Just Dieing a Slow Death...

:C:p;)

jorbill2or wrote:
You prove my point One more time 3 analog was vhf !!!!! 3.1 etc were really in the UHF band say .. 40 or some such channel .. the channel display is saying it’s 3 but it’s not ! It’s really a UHF high number Get it ? Goodnight

in the analog days the channel assignment (as in channel 3, 7, etc) was paired to a specific frequency. thus every channel 7 in the country was on the same frequency. that's why stations in nearby cities...think Chicago and Milwaukee, Chicago and Rockford...did not generally have stations on the same channel assignment.

in the new digital world channel assignments and the frequencies used are not paired. thus you could have duplicate channel numbers in nearby cities but each would be on a different frequency. the decision to remove the pairing of channel assignment and frequency was done for several reasons. stations with lower channel assignments (2-6) had assigned frequencies that had certain propagation characteristics which created reception issues for some users. here in chicago wbbm channel 2 was almost unwatchable at times in the summer because of the ghosting and interference. they wanted to move to a higher frequency (channel 7 and higher). but there was already a channel 7 and 9 in chicago so the FCC removed the pairing and permitted channel 2 to remain channel 2 but they moved ops to a higher frequency. this way channel 2 would not have to re-train their audience to look for them on channel 15 (an example). channels 6, 8 and 10 would not work in chicago be ause the FCC generally required spacing between channel assignments.

NONE of this has anything to do with the antenna other than improved receiving elements and a good amplifier. heck, after the switch to digital i put a cheap HDTV set in my ham shack. on a lark i took a large paper clip, i straightened it out and out and bent a 90-degree angle at one end. i stuck that into the center of the set's antenna connector and was able to receive most of the stations here in chicago. the notable exception was channel 2. i guess i could've marketed that "magical" paper clip as an HDTV Digital antenna and retired sooner than i did.

jorbill2or wrote:
Because tv is broadcast via uhf or vhf .. your old antenna was probably a vhf primarily .( most were) .your new “digital”( lol ) antenna is formed to receive uhf waves better as that’s where most new Chanel’s hang out.

Next we can talk about why channel 6 vhf is really channel 49 uhf but tells you it’s channel 6 but I’m done thanks , I’ll watch etc closely for the next two years !

Yes I got it, rk911 taught me its not called digital and a Chevy is a transportation device not a Chevy..

I am glad I now know the proper term..

Thanks rk911

You prove my point One more time 3 analog was vhf !!!!! 3.1 etc were really in the UHF band say .. 40 or some such channel .. the channel display is saying it’s 3.1 etc but it’s not ! It’s really a UHF band high number one your vhf antenna couldn’t get . Get it ? Goodnight