Windows 10

ReadyToGo wrote:
I am not sure that Microsoft will force updates to 10. (Updates not upgrade.)
But if you sign up to reserve? it, it will download the UPGRADE when it is your turn. The install will not take place until you activate it.
I have seen nothing about updates being automatically installed unless you have that feature turned on.
To the person who will wait until SP1 is out, may be waiting a long long time. MS states that there will only be updates, no SP1.

What Bill is talking about is that MS has announced that Win 10 Home users will not be allowed to defer updates. See this article: Windows 10 Home may force updates

rvten wrote:
:@ not sure to wait or install W10 now with free program.
Have been using W 8.1with no problem as others did when it came out.

Win 10 is not available to install now (unless you purposely download and install the Beta test software). The best you can do at the moment is "Reserve" a copy and MS will download it to your computer on or around July 29th.

There's really no rush, the upgrade will be free for an entire year so you can take up to that long to decide. I also don't have issues with Win 8.1 so I am in no hurry to upgrade.

I am not sure that Microsoft will force updates to 10. (Updates not upgrade.)
But if you sign up to reserve? it, it will download the UPGRADE when it is your turn. The install will not take place until you activate it.
I have seen nothing about updates being automatically installed unless you have that feature turned on.
To the person who will wait until SP1 is out, may be waiting a long long time. MS states that there will only be updates, no SP1.

GordonThree wrote:
Interesting. I've loaded it on an HP Prodesk 600 G1 and a Elitebook something or other (both Windows 8.1 certified machines). The E-book's multitouch-pad gave me a bit of trouble, it would not recognize any gestures until I loaded the Windows 8.1 driver for it from the HP website.

What models did you have trouble with?

I tried it on both a Revolve 810 G1 and an Elitebook 840 G2 and both gave me driver trouble. My guess is that the touchscreens on both were problematic. I know some of the guys here have the preview loaded on their 600 desktops and on the Z-series workstations. It may be limited to laptops... but it was disconcerting that I was 0 for 2.

rvten wrote:
:@ not sure to wait or install W10 now with free program.
Have been using W 8.1with no problem as others did when it came out.

I just bought a new machine with 8.1. I installed the free software, "Classic Shell", to get the Start Menu back. So far I am very happy with it. It is noticeably faster than my Win 7 machine, and boots up and shuts down way way faster.

Won't install W10 if they force every update on me when they think it needs to be done and with no consideration to my internet connection. Wanna see me blow through 1GB of my cellular allowance when I don't have that much left? Just leave my options to Microsoft!

:@ not sure to wait or install W10 now with free program.
Have been using W 8.1with no problem as others did when it came out.

I like Windows 10. I'll take the upgrade as soon as it's available. 10130 seems quite stable.

Now I'm trying out Office 2016.

Mind you, this is all running in a VM on Windows 7. I'm hoping once I get on the real hardware, things will be even faster. Hopefully drivers will be available.

jpmihalk wrote:
The technical preview didn't install on either of my work PCs (both Windows 8.1) because of the hardware not being supported. This isn't a good sign as these are both HP corporate machines. Hopefully they will have better driver support as they move towards launch.

Interesting. I've loaded it on an HP Prodesk 600 G1 and a Elitebook something or other (both Windows 8.1 certified machines). The E-book's multitouch-pad gave me a bit of trouble, it would not recognize any gestures until I loaded the Windows 8.1 driver for it from the HP website.

What models did you have trouble with?

The technical preview didn't install on either of my work PCs (both Windows 8.1) because of the hardware not being supported. This isn't a good sign as these are both HP corporate machines. Hopefully they will have better driver support as they move towards launch.

GordonThree wrote:
I've been running 10 for a few months and in my professional opinion it's not ready nor will it likely be ready by the end of July. Microsoft is fixing things faster than ever before with Windows 10 - they don't want a repeat of Windows 8.0 or worse, Vista. On the other hand, there's never going to be a "service pack" for Windows 10, waiting for one will be a long long wait. The OS is updated incrementally, as part of MS's new "Windows as a service" business model.

A few problems I've run into in Windows 10:

Sometimes basic functions like clicking on the start menu to bring up your list of programs stops working from time to time, and the only fix is to reboot the computer.

Several Windows XP programs which run fine under 7 will not install under Windows 10, due to its improved security and changes to system folder names.

I observed playing video games under 10 was considerably slower than under 7.

On two cases, my Windows 10 machine developed a vague error "Your computer is having trouble starting Windows." There was no fix, only remedy was to reinstall.

I would hazard to guess the summer launch is a "soft launch" to see what major problems are out there, and get them squared away by October in time for the holiday spending season.

On a positive note; I did experience a drastic speed improvement overall upgrading from 7 to 10. The computers all boot much faster and applications open faster. Plus Windows 10 fresh install takes a lot less disk space than Windows 7 fresh install - that's important for laptops with a small solid state drives.

Synchronizing multiple computers works better than it did under 8, many more things can be synchronized now.

I haven't experienced any of these issues you described while running Win 10 (I assume you have the latest build - 10130). The Start menu works every time I click on it and I have never encountered the error "Your computer is having trouble starting Windows." in any of the Tech Preview builds. I can't comment on the speed of video games since I'm not a gamer.

On forums that I follow I see lots of people that post problems they have with the various Win 10 builds. Many times I don't see the same problems so those issues may be an incompatibility with some particular piece of hardware or software that they have in their machine.

Personally, I think the OS is pretty stable at this point but I don't plan to upgrade any of my Win 7 or Win 8.1 machines because there's nothing that can be done in Win 10 that I can't already do with my present machines so I see no benefit to upgrading. I'll wait until I build or buy another computer and will probably have Win 10 on it.