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- olbaby30Explorer
tatest wrote:
it's a rv, thanks for the in put on this matter.
Sportsman was what Dodge called the passenger vans in that era. Cargo vans were Tradesman.
1977 was towards the end of the first generation of the "B" van introduced in 1971 and produced through 2003. First generation powertrains used the 225 slant six, 318 and 360 versions of the small block (LA series) V-8 or 400 and 440 versions of the big block (B series engine). Automatic and manual transmissions were offered, depending on the engine.
The slant six with manual transmission was used only in the short wheelbase 150, usually the Tradesman, so if what you are looking at is a Sportsman it is likely at least the 318 V-8.
Could be built to carry 8 to 15 passengers, using two different wheelbases, a rear extension, and different gross weight ratings (roughly equivalent to 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton in the Dodge pickup trucks, using corresponding borrowed parts).
The longer vans were 250 and 350 models, but the rating of the 350 was more like a heavy 3/4 ton rather than a one-ton or Class 3 rating by DOT standards.
Whatever V8, gas consumption will be determined mostly by how fast you try to push the big box through the air. My E-350 wagon (more modern V8) gets me about 14 mpg running 65-75 on the Interstate, 16 mpg cruising the trunk roads at 55 to 60, with some help or hurt from tailwinds and headwinds. That's running light, carrying driver and a 20 pound suitcase.
Victorville to Baltimore is about 2600 miles via I-40/I-44/I-70, probably the most direct Interstate route.
If you can drive slow enough to get 14 mpg (if a van that old can even do that well) it will cost about $750 for gas at $4 a gallon, one way. I was paying a little more, about $4.50 to $4.80 last month driving my van to Michigan last month, but prices here are down from the holiday weekend. Then again, once you get past Missouri going east, gas taxes jump quite a bit, raising prices 20-30 higher than in Oklahoma and Missouri, and the stations at the Interstate exits and "travel centers" are a few cents higher than going through small towns.
But it is going to cost more than gas, because a vehicle that old starting on a cross country highway trip needs new tires, needs brakes and suspension checked, fluids checked and changed. The tires are going to be something on the order of $600 to $1000 for four light truck-grade tires in those sizes.
What a van that old is worth, any mileage, depends on what the buyer and seller work out. That's the kind of vehicle, if you were to try to trade it to a dealer, you might get $500 just to make a deal on what you were buying, and it would either go to scrap, to auction at about that price, retailed somewhere around $1000-2000 if it could be sold without having to pass any inspections.
If it is a RV, that maybe adds some value, depending on the condition of all the RV stuff.
OK, now, if you are not talking about a van, but some kind of motorhome built on a Dodge van (would still say Sportsman on the door) it is worth whatever the RV part of it is worth, depending on condition. Old usable motorhomes in good condition often sell for $2500 to $5000, but if the house is junk or it is a rebuilding project, getting it free is a paying too much. It takes a lot of money to repair a rotted out RV. - tatestExplorer IISportsman was what Dodge called the passenger vans in that era. Cargo vans were Tradesman.
1977 was towards the end of the first generation of the "B" van introduced in 1971 and produced through 2003. First generation powertrains used the 225 slant six, 318 and 360 versions of the small block (LA series) V-8 or 400 and 440 versions of the big block (B series engine). Automatic and manual transmissions were offered, depending on the engine.
The slant six with manual transmission was used only in the short wheelbase 150, usually the Tradesman, so if what you are looking at is a Sportsman it is likely at least the 318 V-8.
Could be built to carry 8 to 15 passengers, using two different wheelbases, a rear extension, and different gross weight ratings (roughly equivalent to 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton in the Dodge pickup trucks, using corresponding borrowed parts).
The longer vans were 250 and 350 models, but the rating of the 350 was more like a heavy 3/4 ton rather than a one-ton or Class 3 rating by DOT standards.
Whatever V8, gas consumption will be determined mostly by how fast you try to push the big box through the air. My E-350 wagon (more modern V8) gets me about 14 mpg running 65-75 on the Interstate, 16 mpg cruising the trunk roads at 55 to 60, with some help or hurt from tailwinds and headwinds. That's running light, carrying driver and a 20 pound suitcase.
Victorville to Baltimore is about 2600 miles via I-40/I-44/I-70, probably the most direct Interstate route.
If you can drive slow enough to get 14 mpg (if a van that old can even do that well) it will cost about $750 for gas at $4 a gallon, one way. I was paying a little more, about $4.50 to $4.80 last month driving my van to Michigan last month, but prices here are down from the holiday weekend. Then again, once you get past Missouri going east, gas taxes jump quite a bit, raising prices 20-30 higher than in Oklahoma and Missouri, and the stations at the Interstate exits and "travel centers" are a few cents higher than going through small towns.
But it is going to cost more than gas, because a vehicle that old starting on a cross country highway trip needs new tires, needs brakes and suspension checked, fluids checked and changed. The tires are going to be something on the order of $600 to $1000 for four light truck-grade tires in those sizes.
What a van that old is worth, any mileage, depends on what the buyer and seller work out. That's the kind of vehicle, if you were to try to trade it to a dealer, you might get $500 just to make a deal on what you were buying, and it would either go to scrap, to auction at about that price, retailed somewhere around $1000-2000 if it could be sold without having to pass any inspections.
If it is a RV, that maybe adds some value, depending on the condition of all the RV stuff.
OK, now, if you are not talking about a van, but some kind of motorhome built on a Dodge van (would still say Sportsman on the door) it is worth whatever the RV part of it is worth, depending on condition. Old usable motorhomes in good condition often sell for $2500 to $5000, but if the house is junk or it is a rebuilding project, getting it free is a paying too much. It takes a lot of money to repair a rotted out RV. - Carb_CleanerExplorerTroll food:
The World's largest library on the subject, HERE. - olbaby30ExplorerCan I run a fan with a 3000 watt inverter in my camper?
- olbaby30Explorer
opnspaces wrote:
so what can a 3000 watt inverter can run in this camper?
a 3,000 watt inverter will run most household items. The problem is that the inverter can only provide electricity as long as the battery that is feeding it holds up. Below are two hypothetical answers to help in understanding the inverter capabilities. These are not actual tested figures, but they are close enough to real life to be relevant. support my
Almost any inverter can run a cell phone/smart phone charger, or a laptop computer for many hours on a single 12 volt automotive battery.
An inverter large enough to run a household microwave or your rooftop AC will drain a single 12 volt battery in a few minutes.
If you really want to run household appliances your best bet is going to be to get a small generator. But watch out for the open frame contractor style generators like you can buy at Home Depot. Open frame generators are extremely loud.
A small 1,000 watt generator would be good to keep the Sportsman batteries charged.
A 2,000 watt generator will run mot everything in an RV except the AC.
A 3,000 watt generator will run everything including the AC. - opnspacesNavigator IIIa 3,000 watt inverter will run most household items. The problem is that the inverter can only provide electricity as long as the battery that is feeding it holds up. Below are two hypothetical answers to help in understanding the inverter capabilities. These are not actual tested figures, but they are close enough to real life to be relevant. support my
Almost any inverter can run a cell phone/smart phone charger, or a laptop computer for many hours on a single 12 volt automotive battery.
An inverter large enough to run a household microwave or your rooftop AC will drain a single 12 volt battery in a few minutes.
If you really want to run household appliances your best bet is going to be to get a small generator. But watch out for the open frame contractor style generators like you can buy at Home Depot. Open frame generators are extremely loud.
A small 1,000 watt generator would be good to keep the Sportsman batteries charged.
A 2,000 watt generator will run mot everything in an RV except the AC.
A 3,000 watt generator will run everything including the AC. - joloooteExplorerWe had a Royal Sportsman, the one with all the windows, 3/4 Ton with the 360 & automatic tranny. It was great for towing, about 11 mpg. The only problem these engines have is that the fuel level 'Float' in the carburator will absorb gas when they get old and alter the level causing the engine to flood out when trying to start. Also a fire hazard.
- JohnnyG73Explorer
olbaby30 wrote:
JohnnyG73 wrote:
what can I run on a 3000 inverter?
You would need a HUGE solar array and a battery bank to match to even consider running a small AC unit without 110v hook-up.
A 3000 watt inverter. Depends, is it a 3000 watt continuous or 3000 watt peak inverter?
Lets assume it's a 3000 watt continuous/6000 watt max.
You can run AC and microwave, maybe both at the same time...for about 5 seconds - Ron3rdExplorer III360's were common in those vans. The VIN will tell all, or take it to someone who can ID the motor.
- olbaby30Explorer
bikendan wrote:
what Can I run with a 3000 watt inverter?olbaby30 wrote:
Power inventer
yep, not going to be able to run the a/c from an inverter.
you'll need shore power or a generator 3000w or higher.
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