Do I have to take the dealer's word on the MSRP?

Again, you are all discussing pieces of information which are not readily available nor valuable. Get quotes and pay the least. Even if you have invoice and MSRP, you have no idea is 40% off MSRP is attainable, or only 25%.

The 'M' in MSRP stands for 'Manufacturer's'. When a dealership adds on to the MSRP it is no longer a MSRP price. Car dealerships do this all the time - striping, protective coatings, etc. I've even seen 'additional dealership profit' as a line item on the latest hot car or truck that everyone wants. They may still talk about the price as if it's MSRP but it's not. I call it the Sticker Price.

Tim

One more reason I like to order instead of buying off the lot - I don't have to deal wuith that garbage.

nbking wrote:
Roadtrek lists their MSRP on their website. But, that is a suggested selling price. You have to assume they have already added a 25% or so to the cost to give the retailer a profit. The retailer does not have to sell at that price since it is a "suggested" price.

My experience is that dealers add onto the MSRP to arrive at a new MSRP that suits them.

If you can't get it from the Manufacturer, you really don't know what you are getting.

??? Isn't that MSRP. I was unaware the MSSP was different.

Roadtrek lists their MSRP on their website. But, that is a suggested selling price. You have to assume they have already added a 25% or so to the cost to give the retailer a profit. The retailer does not have to sell at that price since it is a "suggested" price.

My experience is that dealers add onto the MSRP to arrive at a new MSRP that suits them.

If you can't get it from the Manufacturer, you really don't know what you are getting.

I could care less about the MSRP. I want to agree with the dealer on what is a reasonable amount of profit for them on the deal and then I want to see the manufacturer's invoice. If the dealer wants to sell then this is not a problem. If the dealer is not interested then I find another dealer.

Grit dog wrote:
Maybe I'm just finding these goofy questions funny tonight because I've been back up on the North Slope working and living in a camp, but dayyyyyummmm. "Do I have to take a dealers word for..... Anything?"
That's funny.
Dealers are in the business of making $ not giving full disclosure. Just like me. I'm interested in making $ for my family, not giving everyone I see on the street a deal just to make them happy and like me.
Please do as others said and figure out what the camper you want is worth to you and go offer them that much, or maybe less so you have some room to negotiate.
Use this great thing called the inner web to find out how much your camper is worth.

Of course I wasn't literally asking if I had to take the dealer's word for it. It was a rhetorical question asked out of frustration because of the lack of informational sources needed to make an informed offer on an RV. I do know the game, amigo. I buy new vehicles frequently and get a good deal, not because I'm all that, but because the tools needed to make an informed purchase of an automobile are easily obtained. But for an RV, not so much. As for using the inner web for RV research, we are on the inner web and on the absolutely best site to research all things RV.

Did you see the invoice I posted? Did you follow my link to the site that actually lists the invoice prices of RV's along with all options? Ultimately, I did get nearly full disclosure (thanks GoPackGo for the link!). And I used the web to get it. And moreover, any fellow forum member who is researching how to get the information to negotiate the purchase of an RV can probably learn something from this thread. Which is basically what this website is all about. People helping people. That's what makes this place so great.

To all those folks in this thread who cordially shared their experiences and suggestions, thanks. I value your perspectives!

Maybe I'm just finding these goofy questions funny tonight because I've been back up on the North Slope working and living in a camp, but dayyyyyummmm. "Do I have to take a dealers word for..... Anything?"
That's funny.
Dealers are in the business of making $ not giving full disclosure. Just like me. I'm interested in making $ for my family, not giving everyone I see on the street a deal just to make them happy and like me.
Please do as others said and figure out what the camper you want is worth to you and go offer them that much, or maybe less so you have some room to negotiate.
Use this great thing called the inner web to find out how much your camper is worth.

When looking to purchase we found two identical trailers, one in Phoenix and one in Tucson. The trailer in Tucson had a MSRP $2500 higher than the one in Phoenix. The Tucson dealership also had an RV park on the premises, the Phoenix dealer did not.

RKW wrote:

2112 wrote:
Doesn't NADA list the MSRP of new units, including options?

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I just checked it out, and yes it does, however, the NADA is always one year behind the newest RV's on the lot. In other words, the present NADA guide lines will give me the MSRP of the 2014 and 2013 models, but not the 2015 models. It also does NOT give the options prices, though it does list every option and/or option package. Still, there are as many 2014 model out there as 2015, and I can extrapolate the 2015 models MSRP from the 2014 MSRP. Knowing the base MSRP is most of the battle. The options I can deduce by comparing the various dealers listings of the MSRP with the various options. This is the tool I needed.

Get the MSRP of the 2013 and the 2014 model and find the difference. Add that to the 2014 MSRP, or get the precentage difference and add it to the 2014 MSRP. will give you in the ball park.