Pets are NOT to be left unattended... what??

'Nuff said...

Rollnhome wrote:
While we are at it...why when I am out walking does everyone think I want to pet or play with their dog. They lead them up to you and let them start sniffing your private parts and start telling you how friendly they are. I like most dogs if I want to interact with your dog I will ask. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Walking thru the CG one day. 2 huge dogs came runnig out of a camper and to us in the road. whith the useless owner screaming they won't bite. I put myself betwen them and the children. This is a time when being a bad owner can get your dog shot, ot beat, For IF one of them had showen his teeth, I would have started in with the walking stick I was carrying. And no one would have said a word.

Mocoondo wrote:
Pet owners note well: Many states have laws against confining an animal inside a vehicle.

http://animallaw.info/articles/State%20Tables/tbusdogshotcars.htm

If I see anyone leave a dog unattended in a closed up vehicle (i.e. motorhome or trailer), I promptly call the police and animal control.

In many jurisdictions, an animal cruelty charge will result. In cases where the animal was harmed, the owner can be charged with felony animal cruelty.

Be prepared to politely get told to go pound salt when the LEO or ACO sees that the dog is safely confined in the appropriately heated, ventilated, or air conditioned environment of an RV set up in a campground.

While we are at it...why when I am out walking does everyone think I want to pet or play with their dog. They lead them up to you and let them start sniffing your private parts and start telling you how friendly they are. I like most dogs if I want to interact with your dog I will ask. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

bigdogger wrote:

et2 wrote:

Terryallan wrote:

et2 wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:

raindove wrote:
Good grief...... some ppl need to chill out. Just because some dogs don't know how to behave or have irresponsible owners, you lump all dogs and dog owners in one category?

Get real - there are wife beaters out there - does that mean all men are wife beaters? There are women who can be real shrews - does that mean all women are like that? There are children who are neglected and unsupervised - does that mean all kids and parents fall into that group? Some people steal - does that mean all people steal?

I surely don't understand the attack this thread took on, against dog owners.

Probably because in a 100 site RV park there is almost always one incessantly barking dog left alone in a rig. It gets really, really old enforcing any kind of policy. The norm is we finally get ahold of the person. They apologize profusely and tell us it will never happen again. The dog is then left alone to bark incessantly the next day and we notice that they are scheduled to leave the next morning anyway, so there is really nothing we can do short of tossing them out and create a big scene at 9PM when they return from their day trip. We then take the path of least resistance and say "What the Flip" and let nature take it's course and wave goodbye to them in the morning and then start following our ears to the next problem pup. It's only one dog, but they disturb entire sections of a park. Doesn't take too many for it to be a constant problem for both the park and the guests.

Wouldn't it be more convenient for you to ban dogs from your campground? It wouldn't bother most dog owners one bit avoiding your place all together. You never know when those yappy ones will show up. But I'm sure that would bite a little into the revenues wouldn't it. You could do us a favor by letting us know the name and location of your campground. I would be happy to pass you by during my travels. No hard feelings either.

I muct have missed something here. WesternPO didn't jump on anyone, didn't say he wanted to ban dogs. Was just honest about what happens at the CG he runs. He didn't toss the bad dog owner's as I personally believ he should have, He let them stay another day, and bother even more people. But it seems you took exception to him being nice to the bad dog owner's. It's just possible, he wil be glad to NOT have you visit his CG.

It seems you overlooked his/her scripture post? Sure seems like he/she has some bias. Personally I find these dog threads amusing. The good dog owners way out number the bad ones. We don't hear those stories. As some have indicated, there are many of us dog owners who go out of our way to make sure the rest of you are happy and enjoying your time. That's more than I can say for the "unattended" kids running through everyone's campsite, the loud drunks keeping everyone up all night, those shooting off fireworks, golf carts being operated by people who shouldn't drive a car much less a golf cart. But I have been able to live with it when I camp. I've been camping for over 40 years and have never run across a barking dog problem. Can't say the same for the other things I've mentioned.

You lose all your credibility when you state that in over 40 years you have never run across a barking dog problem. That is only possible in a very few situations. One, you always boondock in the middle of nowhere with no one else around or chose parks than do not allow pets. Two, incessantly barking dogs do not bother you, hence it is never a problem, or three you are deaf and noise is never an issue. My guess is you have problem dogs and have been asked to leave parks, so like so many people today, instead of standing up and taking personal responsibility, you blame everyone else. In this case you blame it on their lack of tolerance for dogs, which I actually haven't seen too many posts actually profess. It is not a lack of tolerance for people's pets, it a well deserved intolerance for anything that disturbs others that is created by carelessness or indifference of the rights of others and that is what a barking, unattended dog is, either carelessness or indifference to what that does to everyone esle. . The reason so many people have problems with dogs in campground is because the problem exists. People do leave barking dogs unattended. People do fail to clean up after their dogs and this effects everyone else in the park. If all the people who spend so much energy saying it is the intolerance of others instead would put that effort into chastising those who are the bad owners and supporting the parks that try to enforce dog rules maybe this wouldn't be such an issue. But playing ostrich and sticking your head in the sand pretending a problem doesn't exist just makes you a pretty stupid looking bird.

Wow what a ridiculous post. So what, have you lived the last 55 years on my shoulder? You know nothing about me or my adventures or anything about my dogs, so what gives? You don't comprehend what you read very well. I'll just keep it short in my response to your long winded diatribe ... POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK.

Just left an RV park where the guy did not want his 3 little dogs "stinking up his brand new 5er". So he left them tied up in the outside storage compartment day and night...or tied up to the picnic table 24/7. He thought it was ok to tie them up to sleep in the storage compartment with the door cracked open. They tied them up and went inside in their air conditioning.

After a couple days of this I could'nt believe someone would do this to their dogs. We notified the campground manager...needless to say, the 3 dogs are now inside his camper "stinking it up"!

I can see why RV parks do not want dogs anymore...I am sick of barking, poop, and dogs loose.

Like no alcohol policies the rule is definitely left open ended to allow CG owners to any easy way to expel campers with a dog that won't stop barking and is disturbing others.
The Barking does not have meet anyone definition of loud. Nor does the CG have to prove that the dog was disturbing anyone.
If the dog is left unattended in or outside of the RV than the CG has a rule/reason to expel the culprit if necessary.

Mocoondo wrote:
Pet owners note well: Many states have laws against confining an animal inside a vehicle.

http://animallaw.info/articles/State%20Tables/tbusdogshotcars.htm

If I see anyone leave a dog unattended in a closed up vehicle (i.e. motorhome or trailer), I promptly call the police and animal control.

In many jurisdictions, an animal cruelty charge will result. In cases where the animal was harmed, the owner can be charged with felony animal cruelty.

You certainly are religiously anal aren't you ?many of our friends all of whom have dogs and travel leave animals in their traveling homes but they are wonderfully provided for and neighbors are informed that in the event of an emergency to please handle the puppies situation, you do need to go to the grocery etc and I get sick when I see poor animals locked in overly warm autos as ours is at home in a heated /AC equipped unit,

We have seen this rule many times, and sometimes specifically written "inside or outside". We have a dog and take her with us almost all the time. I, even as a dog owner, am very irritated with barking dogs. And as a dog lover, I also worry that there is something wrong if I hear a dog barking and crying continuously. You really can't tell if they need to go potty, hurt themselves, are lonely, hungry, hot, sick or what. Some owners don't take proper precautions for heat and don't care if the water dish has anything in it or not. You never can tell what the reason behind the barking is.

et2 wrote:

Terryallan wrote:

et2 wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:

raindove wrote:
Good grief...... some ppl need to chill out. Just because some dogs don't know how to behave or have irresponsible owners, you lump all dogs and dog owners in one category?

Get real - there are wife beaters out there - does that mean all men are wife beaters? There are women who can be real shrews - does that mean all women are like that? There are children who are neglected and unsupervised - does that mean all kids and parents fall into that group? Some people steal - does that mean all people steal?

I surely don't understand the attack this thread took on, against dog owners.

Probably because in a 100 site RV park there is almost always one incessantly barking dog left alone in a rig. It gets really, really old enforcing any kind of policy. The norm is we finally get ahold of the person. They apologize profusely and tell us it will never happen again. The dog is then left alone to bark incessantly the next day and we notice that they are scheduled to leave the next morning anyway, so there is really nothing we can do short of tossing them out and create a big scene at 9PM when they return from their day trip. We then take the path of least resistance and say "What the Flip" and let nature take it's course and wave goodbye to them in the morning and then start following our ears to the next problem pup. It's only one dog, but they disturb entire sections of a park. Doesn't take too many for it to be a constant problem for both the park and the guests.

Wouldn't it be more convenient for you to ban dogs from your campground? It wouldn't bother most dog owners one bit avoiding your place all together. You never know when those yappy ones will show up. But I'm sure that would bite a little into the revenues wouldn't it. You could do us a favor by letting us know the name and location of your campground. I would be happy to pass you by during my travels. No hard feelings either.

I muct have missed something here. WesternPO didn't jump on anyone, didn't say he wanted to ban dogs. Was just honest about what happens at the CG he runs. He didn't toss the bad dog owner's as I personally believ he should have, He let them stay another day, and bother even more people. But it seems you took exception to him being nice to the bad dog owner's. It's just possible, he wil be glad to NOT have you visit his CG.

It seems you overlooked his/her scripture post? Sure seems like he/she has some bias. Personally I find these dog threads amusing. The good dog owners way out number the bad ones. We don't hear those stories. As some have indicated, there are many of us dog owners who go out of our way to make sure the rest of you are happy and enjoying your time. That's more than I can say for the "unattended" kids running through everyone's campsite, the loud drunks keeping everyone up all night, those shooting off fireworks, golf carts being operated by people who shouldn't drive a car much less a golf cart. But I have been able to live with it when I camp. I've been camping for over 40 years and have never run across a barking dog problem. Can't say the same for the other things I've mentioned.

You lose all your credibility when you state that in over 40 years you have never run across a barking dog problem. That is only possible in a very few situations. One, you always boondock in the middle of nowhere with no one else around or chose parks than do not allow pets. Two, incessantly barking dogs do not bother you, hence it is never a problem, or three you are deaf and noise is never an issue. My guess is you have problem dogs and have been asked to leave parks, so like so many people today, instead of standing up and taking personal responsibility, you blame everyone else. In this case you blame it on their lack of tolerance for dogs, which I actually haven't seen too many posts actually profess. It is not a lack of tolerance for people's pets, it a well deserved intolerance for anything that disturbs others that is created by carelessness or indifference of the rights of others and that is what a barking, unattended dog is, either carelessness or indifference to what that does to everyone esle. . The reason so many people have problems with dogs in campground is because the problem exists. People do leave barking dogs unattended. People do fail to clean up after their dogs and this effects everyone else in the park. If all the people who spend so much energy saying it is the intolerance of others instead would put that effort into chastising those who are the bad owners and supporting the parks that try to enforce dog rules maybe this wouldn't be such an issue. But playing ostrich and sticking your head in the sand pretending a problem doesn't exist just makes you a pretty stupid looking bird.