Here is the history: we had a Phaethon that we liked a lot, but we sold it because didnt have bunk beds and we weren't using enough. The bug didn't leave us, so recently we bought a gasser with bunks...
My problem with the red is it looks like they haven't really worked in innovating it in the last 2 or 3 years. And I think it would be a disappointment after our phaeton. Fleetwood, on the other end, is out to prove that it was worth saving from the recent nose dive of the market, and consequent bankruptcy filing. With that they are trying hard to put out a product that is competitive. Am I so naive?