so is 29 ft the cutoff for not towing a toad ?

wildtoad wrote:
You must be avid bikers. We did the no toad for a number of years. Years ago we would take bikes to go to town until town was several miles away. We then rented cars at the destination if we wanted to see the sights that were too far away for bikes until we ran into a situation where there weren't any rental companies. And then there was the time the RV needed to be towed and luckily we had a car with us.

You can do as you are planning and 29 ft is a good size for that, but then so was 31.

I bike about 3 or 4k miles a year,,,and run about 900 a yr,,,,so im kinda avid I gues,,,thx for the reply :)

jplante4 wrote:
We went last winter toadless, renting when we needed supplies or to sightsee. I believe we missed a lot and spent about $3k renting cars. That would pay for a tow bar setup on a toad. Trouble is, neither of our cars can be towed flat, so I need to buy something before the next big adventure.

Also, we found we were picking campgrounds based on their proximity to Enterprise locations. If you're going to be on the road full time or for an entire season, IMHO, a toad is required.

Depending on where you are going and how you travel might find renting from rental outfits like ZipCar less expensive. They include high mileage (200-300 miles daily)and free gas. The only disadvantage is they are generally only found near universities and large metro areas.

We don't currently own a car (It's an expensive liability in Manhattan for my sight) and won't until the TT is about to arrive. Interim, we rent from Zipcar. Useful for day trips and getting gear to the campground. Once there we ride our bicycles or walk locally, have take out delivered (clam pizza or a shore dinner every Friday; I envy you your region's food!) and have produce and ice delivered via PeaPod. This behavior will change when we leave the region but I'm enjoying it as long as it lasts, LOL.

We went last winter toadless, renting when we needed supplies or to sightsee. I believe we missed a lot and spent about $3k renting cars. That would pay for a tow bar setup on a toad. Trouble is, neither of our cars can be towed flat, so I need to buy something before the next big adventure.

Also, we found we were picking campgrounds based on their proximity to Enterprise locations. If you're going to be on the road full time or for an entire season, IMHO, a toad is required.

I have no toad and 2 bikes.
Gets us around just fine.
If it is a big city it will have a transit system if it is a small town I drive.

There are just so many places where a car fits fine but even a small RV will have a problem fitting in. Sure you can tour Yellowstone in a 28ft RV, but many turnouts only fit 2 or 3 cars, so you may not find a place to stop and stare. Similarly you could take a small RV on some beautiful twisty curvy scenic roads, but there is so much more to see when your eyes are not stuck ahead of you with the RV. Big cities can be a real pain even in a small RV. And the list goes on and on and on. Perhaps with a 28fter (our first motorhome was a 28ft Establishment Class C...loved it) you can plan your vacations without a toad. But keep in mind, in many locations you may opt to rent a car for a few days and leave the RV at basecamp. Do consider also: you make basecamp, level the rig, put out the slides, hook up everything (perhaps focus the dish...not our thing), now you want to see a nighttime event in town, at the ranger station, nearby, so you must unhook, stow your gear, bring in the slides, and drive off for a few hours, only to repeat each step in reverse.
Just saying...Happpy Trails.

You must be avid bikers. We did the no toad for a number of years. Years ago we would take bikes to go to town until town was several miles away. We then rented cars at the destination if we wanted to see the sights that were too far away for bikes until we ran into a situation where there weren't any rental companies. And then there was the time the RV needed to be towed and luckily we had a car with us.

You can do as you are planning and 29 ft is a good size for that, but then so was 31.

cruiserjs wrote:
We had a 28 ft MH and would never travel without a toad!! Way to much for town or woods travel!!

really ?? I don't want a toad...we can go into town on bikes...

We had a 28 ft MH and would never travel without a toad!! Way to much for town or woods travel!!