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Jul 17, 2013

Andersen No-Sway Experience

Over all I give the Andersen a thumbs up. Initial install is simple and quick. Its ability to move weight forward on your rig is surprisingly good. It pulls well and handles sway about as well as could be expected.
A couple notes here. I will preface this by saying that I am a class 1 driver with a substantial amount of experience hauling god awful sized loads to places where trucks are not really meant to go, if it has wheels, I have driven or pulled it. Hooking up a pickup truck to a 36 foot long 12 foot high 10000 pound brick shaped sail balanced on a 3 foot fulcrum and heading down the road is not a task for beginners. While many companies make claims about control and elimination of trailer sway, wind is still a killer. Simply put, in my experience, if you are heading into a wind that is between head on and full cross wind, your trailer and in a 5th wheels case, your entire rig is going to move and shove ya around. Sway will happen. How a hitch responds to that is the piece of the puzzle we can talk about.
The Andersen uses the friction liner as a sway control device. And really, I think it performs as well as can be expected. You can feel the trailer move a bit, but then on its return trip, it just seems to settle back in behind the TV. Keep in mind I pulled across hwy 1 in southern Saskatchewan which is in my opinion one of the worst places in Canada for cross winds, I and many truckers I know hate that stretch or road. I had one occasion where I crested a hill caught a gust and the trailer along with the back end of my truck magically moved over half a lane to the passenger side. Soft brakes, kept the truck going straight and a gently squeeze of the trailer brake, no drama, trailer slides back in behind me, and away we go. Notable as well was that outside of the crosswind fun (which every other trailer on the road was fighting with), very little drama was experienced from tractor trailers passing either way.
Back to the hitch. I played around with the hitch set up a few times and found that you can change how your rig feels to you with quite small changes in the tightness of the chains. What I ended up with was a slight nose down angle on the trailer (intentional), maybe 3/16 compression of the bushings, and about a 1.5 inch drop at the back of my truck. Steering axel of the truck ended up with about a 1/16 inch rise, and a loss of about 180kg from without the trailer (I played around at the self-weigh scales to get a handle on how well the chains worked) At the next stop I tightened them up a bit and the front squatted back down a hair more so I am guessing my final set up had me losing about 100 kg off the steering axel. This setup changed a few times over the course of the trip as I played with it to get it dialed in. One thing to remember here, I am pulling a big rear travel trailer. The 325b is a substantial unit, see the 10000 brick comment above, LOL. I was well within GVW on both TV and Trailer and GCVW on the complete Rig, but it is a big combination rolling down the road.
What you will notice with this hitch, (aside from the fact that all that snapping, popping and creaking is absent) is that your truck and trailer feel connected, but not as much as a single unit. The anti-bounce of the Andersen may have something to do with this. As you go over the dips, you will feel the trailer move, but it does not shove you up and down or heaven forbid, sideways after the bump, it just settles back behind you. I think the thing I liked most about the Andersen is that the trailer feels “predictable”. Perhaps it is just the experienced trailer haulers who will really get what I mean here, but the trailer does what you expect it to, but allows you to concentrate on driving your tow vehicle. I will continue to play with the setup to see if I can dial it in even more, but for now I am very happy with the unit and feel great recommending it to others.

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  • Thanks for pointing those issues Road Ruler, I was curious to hear what is being said. We do have the Anderson system and have had no problems with it, no sway issues and seems to transfer weight just fine. That being said, this is our first TT so have no comparisons. We are towing an approx. 8500 lb. loaded trailer with a 2012 f250 6.2
  • IMO most if not all the coupler issue were from Airstream users with worn out couplers.

    As far as the brackets slipping, you have the same issue with the EQ 'L' brackets. It's a simple fix, either put a small 1/2" tack weld or drill a hole for a set screw.

    Any of the friction base WD hitches will cause issues on an icy road.

    None of the WD hitches are w/o fault in some way. The Anderson is new and IMO needs some tweaks.
  • There are plenty of people willing to share negatives "that someone on the Internet" said about the Andersen hitch. Most actual users agree with what "babies_dadeo" had to say. His is a case of a good driver, with a capable tow vehicle, towing a fairly heavy travel trailer, with good results. Another brand of hitch might have done just as well, we don't know that.
  • tbred wrote:
    Just curious Road Ruler what shortcomings you are referring to?


    Key info to date....

    One forum member tried it and had problems setting it up to transfer weight. Since the beginning many have questioned whether it can transfer a satisfactory amount of weight to the front wheels. Some folks argue that because of the nature of some vehicle types a small amount of weight transfer is adequate. That raised more questions.

    It was suggested it may "by design" be sketchy on slick roads. It was also suggested that if one of the chains broke the system would completely lose it's WD effect (safety?).

    There does seem to be an issue with securing the brackets on the trailer frame so they don't move but with some extra work there are solutions available (drilling holes, welding).

    One poster had concerns about the stresses that would be put on the trailer coupler. There are reports of a possible safety issues with parts wearing inside of the coupler. In one case the coupler disengaged from the ball. Some users have gone to the trouble of replacing the trailer's coupler. Note hours of work and $'s. Another user has installed a safety chain over the coupler to prevent it from coming off the ball.

    There is also a question about the built in sway control, how well it operates, and how long it will last (parts replacement?). There have been reports of wear issues in this area.

    One comment was.... "Andersen support is great about some things and not so about about others. Very poor customer service IMHO." Others have reported good customer service from Andersen.

    The ANDSN is new to the fray and many say it has not been out long enough to show long term reliability or performance. Note to date (as far as we know) no unbiased professional testing has been performed to compare it to other connection system designs.

    A huge discussion of the issues here.... http://www.airforums.com/forums/f464/the-andersen-wd-hitch-user-thread-92131.html

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  • For use on my just traded 22 fot HiLo, the Andersen did a very good job. It was easy for me to install. It kept the trailer very steady.

    But there was one thing about the Andersen that was beginning to bug me greatly. Every time, I hitched or unhitched, I had to get out the 1/2 inch socket wrench and that big socket and unscrew both sides of the hitch chain. For me that was getting to be a PITA.

    I just traded in the HiLo on a Koala. I got an Equal-i-zer hitch for the new trailer. That hitch combined with the power tongue jack makes for relatively easy hitching and unhitching.

    babies_dadeo wrote:
    Over all I give the Andersen a thumbs up. Initial install is simple and quick. Its ability to move weight forward on your rig is surprisingly good. It pulls well and handles sway about as well as could be expected.
    A couple notes here. I will preface this by saying that I am a class 1 driver with a substantial amount of experience hauling god awful sized loads to places where trucks are not really meant to go, if it has wheels, I have driven or pulled it. Hooking up a pickup truck to a 36 foot long 12 foot high 10000 pound brick shaped sail balanced on a 3 foot fulcrum and heading down the road is not a task for beginners. While many companies make claims about control and elimination of trailer sway, wind is still a killer. Simply put, in my experience, if you are heading into a wind that is between head on and full cross wind, your trailer and in a 5th wheels case, your entire rig is going to move and shove ya around. Sway will happen. How a hitch responds to that is the piece of the puzzle we can talk about.
    The Andersen uses the friction liner as a sway control device. And really, I think it performs as well as can be expected. You can feel the trailer move a bit, but then on its return trip, it just seems to settle back in behind the TV. Keep in mind I pulled across hwy 1 in southern Saskatchewan which is in my opinion one of the worst places in Canada for cross winds, I and many truckers I know hate that stretch or road. I had one occasion where I crested a hill caught a gust and the trailer along with the back end of my truck magically moved over half a lane to the passenger side. Soft brakes, kept the truck going straight and a gently squeeze of the trailer brake, no drama, trailer slides back in behind me, and away we go. Notable as well was that outside of the crosswind fun (which every other trailer on the road was fighting with), very little drama was experienced from tractor trailers passing either way.
    Back to the hitch. I played around with the hitch set up a few times and found that you can change how your rig feels to you with quite small changes in the tightness of the chains. What I ended up with was a slight nose down angle on the trailer (intentional), maybe 3/16 compression of the bushings, and about a 1.5 inch drop at the back of my truck. Steering axel of the truck ended up with about a 1/16 inch rise, and a loss of about 180kg from without the trailer (I played around at the self-weigh scales to get a handle on how well the chains worked) At the next stop I tightened them up a bit and the front squatted back down a hair more so I am guessing my final set up had me losing about 100 kg off the steering axel. This setup changed a few times over the course of the trip as I played with it to get it dialed in. One thing to remember here, I am pulling a big rear travel trailer. The 325b is a substantial unit, see the 10000 brick comment above, LOL. I was well within GVW on both TV and Trailer and GCVW on the complete Rig, but it is a big combination rolling down the road.
    What you will notice with this hitch, (aside from the fact that all that snapping, popping and creaking is absent) is that your truck and trailer feel connected, but not as much as a single unit. The anti-bounce of the Andersen may have something to do with this. As you go over the dips, you will feel the trailer move, but it does not shove you up and down or heaven forbid, sideways after the bump, it just settles back behind you. I think the thing I liked most about the Andersen is that the trailer feels “predictable”. Perhaps it is just the experienced trailer haulers who will really get what I mean here, but the trailer does what you expect it to, but allows you to concentrate on driving your tow vehicle. I will continue to play with the setup to see if I can dial it in even more, but for now I am very happy with the unit and feel great recommending it to others.
  • Main shortcomings include: Inability to transfer enough weight on heavier trailers, slipped brackets, and static loading of trailer couplers in a direction they were not designed for.

    Note: I'm not trying to bash. I have an Anderson hitch now and it's been great for the last 100+ thousand miles. But with how many miles I put on the trailers I tow, I wouldn't use the no-sway without first upgrading to a Bulldog coupler.
  • Just curious Road Ruler what shortcomings you are referring to?
  • Hopefully the new and improved A2 if they ever do get around to designing it will solve some of the many shortcomings of the Andersen.