Another can my truck pull this thread...

boogie_4wheel wrote:
I think you are going to run out of truck payload. My 21' TH has a 1k tongue before toys (that increases throughout the trip since my gray and black are forward of the axle), and can increase with more forward loading of toys and luggage. I'd expect that trailer to have more tongue weight than that; 1300-1400 I would guess.

Bringing your buddies and their bikes? You simply don't have enough truck. 4 of us go to Moab every year. 4 bikes, gas, water, beer, generator, chairs, everything we need for the trip is packed. My rig gained 3700lbs worth of bodies and stuff last time we weighed; a little over 17k combined. I don't have the amount of trailer you are looking at, but 3 bikes in the trailer with all of our gear bags and luggage on the front bed. Truck packing the 4th bike, gen, fuel, ect. My truck took on 2400lbs over empty (if I remember correctly).

I think you need a shorter trailer.

I think 3700 lbs is a little extreme. I have been camping for a few years now and if I EVER packed even 500lbs of stuff I would be surprised. What they heck did you pack, a full size car inside the camper...3700 LOL. The camper has GVWR of 9950, so even loaded to its max I can not go over my tow weight capacity and at 12% tonque of max loaded weight, that is 1200 lbs which gives me more than 800lbs of payload for passengers in the truck. That is FOUR 200lb adults, which I will never have.

The only limiting factor for my truck is payload and I would literally have to have a FULLY loaded 9950lb camper with 4 full size adults to meet/exceed that capacity, and even then it is still close.