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May 18, 2014

Are all of your trailer brakes working and how do you know?

I posted this question in General RVing because I wanted this question to get as much exposure as possible, I think this forum gives it more exposure than it would get in towing or on the technical forum.

Anyhow,we all assume that all is well with our trailer brakes when we head out if we give the manual actuator a "throw" and we feel the trailer respond. After all, why would you think anything else?

Well, I just got back from a 3300 mile trip to WA state and back and if I wouldn't have had a Fluke Ti100 thermal imager with me. I would have been in the dark.

As it turns out, I borrowed one from work (wonderful they let us do that) to take with me on the trip for the purpose of "scanning" the wheels and what not just to keep everything in check. I found out two things on the trip amongst other things. 1) I had one brake dragging and eventually one brake failed, both on the same side. Now, the brake that was dragging I know was dragging because it was running hotter that the rest when I stopped for gas and got a temp reading on the wheel assembly. It was reading upwards of 196 degrees and the other three were reading at about 160 degrees. I crawled under the TT and backed off on the adjuster a few clicks. It got me to thinking, this is the same wheel I had a blowout on back in June. Could have been the wheel just got to hot and caused the tire to fail. The Jury is still out on that one because I have no way to confirm that but it stands to reason that it could have been the reason for the tire failure. Especially since I had two failures on the same wheel inside of 6 months.

Secondly, the brake on the same side on the front axle failed. Again I know this because after reading at each stop for gas and all of the brakes running about the same temp of about 160 + or - a few degrees, that one in particualr read 86 degrees upon stopping and reading it. With a thermal immager you can see what is going on. The perimeter of the drum would of course show the hotest (bright red) and you could see the rest of the of the wheel assembly and their various temperatures as well. The imager discriminates very well as well so there is no confusing what is going on.

As it turns out, after getting the TT out of the shop and talking with the service manager, I had a magnet failure. The wire came loose internally. I asked him if it looked like the magnet had failed from day one and there was no ware on the brakes or if it looked like they were working and at some point it failed. He said it looked like it was working and at some point failed.

So, I pose the question. How would you know if you had a magnet failure or some other brake failure (electric brakes) short of all four not engaging? When I would brake, everything felt normal. No pull to one side or the other. I had effectively 75% braking which aint bad, but it ain't great either!

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  • I don't know about other brake controllers,but mine give me an amperage readout.There should be right at 3 amps current draw per magnet,with 12-13 amps when braking when all 4 are working.

    For a while mine were only showing 9 amps when braking.With a little trouble shooting using a clamp-on amp meter I was able to find which magnet was not doing its share of work.Though the braking seemed to be fine.
    There was a bad wire conection.I redid the connection and all is now well.
  • Yeah, sometimes it's impossible to feel just one brake assembly not working while underway. Heat measurement is a great indicator and a guy can check for magnet function with a compass or other magnetic indicator. I think the best way around this is to make sure all your wiring is good and to do a yearly inspection of the assemblies. Since most trailer brakes aren't self adjusting, adjusting should go along with the inspection.
    I guess I've had great luck with shoe/drum brakes, none of mine have mechanically failed. In the old days, the hydraulic side of things was the first to fail.
  • This is a good thread. This is also why I use a infrared temp thermometer to check hubs and brakes. All mine have been within 10 degrees of each other. I am a little surprised of the temps you consider normal as after towing more than an hour my temps are more like 115-120 degrees and that is with minimal braking and properly adjusted brakes.

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