California adds 12 cent gas tax and 20 cent diesel tax

California is not Europe. Most people cannot avail themselves of the single line they have now.
Many dive fifty even one hundred miles each day to and from work.
There is not enough room or available housing on top of where they work.
And unlike Europe they don't get six weeks or ore vacation which take a load off transit.
Talk of mass transit is essentially nosnes for most people. Some will get to use but everyone pays for it.
The essntial problem is they are trying to engineer a vehicle less society, and in socialist system where those that work, who will and are outnumbered by those that aren't working in California get the same level of income. Those engineering and managing this scheme live above it and crack the whip.
Moonbeam Brown's utopia or socialist paradise where everyone smokes dope, wears hair shirts, and lives in huts, and rides bikes and spend their hours at corner coffee houses being enlightened, by readings of Marks etc is the height of delusion and foolishness. They think they can mange our lives for our benefit better than we can. What they mean is they can run the train around the track and build the railroad to suit them and we are forced to pay and abide.

I'm a foreigner but also own property and pay taxes in California and live there a few months of the year so I get some of the comments. Curious though. I have always been a fan of high speed rail. We spend time in Europe and love the high speed trains. You get on and off in the centre of the city (unlike airports) 300 KMH, ccomfortable, quiet, lots of leg room, bathrooms, restaurant and bar. 10 times nicer than travelling by air and usually just as fast as there are no big expensive cab rides down town. I have never figured out why there is so much resistance to them on this side of the pond. Cultural thing I guess.

We still like California. Very multicultural. Good hiking. Not stuck in the fifties. Everyone has different tastes of course.

Chris Bryant wrote:
Good for them. That's why their economy is among the strongest of states.

That's funny you say that, they have raised fuel taxes many times and have said it was to repair the bad pot hole roads but they never do so what do they do they raise fuel tax again and again and say its to repair the many bad roads but they never do in so many parts of the state.

Also Cali is billion and billions in debt.. :R

Bad roads, higher fuel cost, a 55MPH speed limit and stuck in the right lane wonder why I am going to bypass California on the trip back from Washington? And to top that off our RV is old school carbureted and have no issues when in Arizona but let me fill up in California I will start having occasional back fires get back to Arizona after the second fill up no more backfires.

Ivylog wrote:
Diesel is $2.09 in Greenville SC and the roads are pretty darn good. Glad last summer was the last time I'll have to go to California, not that I'll be missed.

Correct - you won't be missed..:R:R

But - YOU and folks from other states get a heck of a deal!!..:S

Yeah, you pay more for gas *while* you visit CA, but you get to use
the roads CA residents will be paying for - for free!

CA needs toll roads (Interstates) like many other states, so you can pay your fair share to use 'em..:

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This is why I cannot wait to leave this state when I retire. We are getting the **** taxed out of use working people.

lanerd wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

lanerd wrote:
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If, and that's a big if.... the increase in gas tax is used ONLY for highway infrastructure...that will be great and I'm more than willing to pay the increase.:C

Ron

Really, it doesn't matter to California whether you're more than willing or not. If you want gas/diesel you'll pay it. Like it or lump it. :)

And that's a fact Jack! However my statement was just meant that "I" personally not only will (due to the fact I don't have a choice as long as I live in California), be willing!

That's all folks.

Ron

IMO the people deserved what they get from the Politicians they elect. I left CA 17 years ago and do not miss all of the taxes and high costs of living there. That is the worst State run by he Democrats who never saw an opportunity for raising more taxes. Just like the High Speed rail they are building and are Millions over budget.
No wonder so many Large Corporations that have moved out of State.

Guarantee they will find a way to fund the low high speed train and NONE will go to road improvements.

And no one has mentioned that California is projected to have a $2.8 billion surplus. So why do they have to keep taxing us more?

lanerd wrote:
If, and that's a big if.... the increase in gas tax is used ONLY for highway infrastructure...that will be great and I'm more than willing to pay the increase.:C

Ron

Only blue people in blue states believe this. The money goes into the general fund. Monies from the general fund goes to whoever will get a state rep re-elected.