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gsitexas
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Apr 19, 2015

Chevy Duramax 2500HD - 5th Wheel Towing Question

Hello All,

My wife and I want to replace our current travel trailer and found a 5th wheel we really like but I'm concerned it may be too much trailer for my tow vehicle.

I would appreciate those of you with significant 5th wheel experience to review the following and provide your input.

Tow Vehicle:
2013 Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD CrewCab standard box 4WD LTZ
Duramax diesel engine
GVWR: 10,000 lbs
GCWR: 24,500 lbs
Curb Wt: 7,294 lbs
Payload: 2,706 lbs
GAWR FRT: 5,200 lbs
GAWR RR: 6,200 lbs
Max tow - 5th wheel: 15,800 lbs
Max king pin wt: 3,000 lbs

5th Wheel:
Grand Design Momentum 350M Toy Hauler
16500 - GVWR
13500 - Dry Weight
2900 - Hitch Weight
2373 - Dry Hitch Weight (estimated)
38'9" - Length

5th wheel would be towed without any fluids, 60lb propane and lightly loaded (< 1000lbs). Truck would be loaded with full fuel, me, wife, dog and 5th wheel hitch

Is it feasible that we could comfortably and safely tow this 5th wheel or do we need to restrict our search for a 5th wheel in the 12,000 lb GVWR range?

Thanks in advance for your reply!

Keith

16 Replies

  • WAY too much fiver for a 2500.
    Look at your payload rating.
    Subtract the weight of the hitch, people, stuff, fuel from that number.
    Compare what's left to the (est) 2900# hitch weight of the fiver.

    Do YOU think you are OK?

    Then think about your powertrain warranty if you had mechanical problems. It COULD be voided due to overloading. You REALLY don't want to be there with a diesel!
  • rhagfo's avatar
    rhagfo
    Explorer III
    #1. A 5er with a 16,500# GVWR is DRW area!
    #2. The 2,900# dry hitch may not change much, but will likely put you well over the GRAWR, which is likely based on tire capacity.
    #3. Just for comparison, I carry an 11,000# (Loaded) 5er, with our 2001 Ram 2500 and I am right at 10,000# GVW for the TV, with 2,000# of hitch weight. I carry about 5,500# on the rear axle rated for 6,084#. So you will be over GVWR, Not so bad, but not good. Over GRAWR by likely 300#+, not good, and likely over max tire ratings Very Bad!
  • Hi,

    Most 2500 series trucks do not make a good match for a fifth wheel. But I see that the GVWR is now up to 10,000 pounds, so they are getting better. If you had a gas engine, then the curb weight would be around 500 pounds less, and it might work while not exceeding the GVWR.

    However with only 2,700 pounds of total cargo rating, and you and the wife and dog weights around say 400 - 500 pounds, the hitch will come in a 200 pound crate, then that only leaves say 2,000 pounds for hitch weight. That is not much when you are considering a 10,000 pound trailer with 20% on the hitch, or 2,000 pounds!

    With a 3,000 pound hitch weight on a 200 pound hitch, and 500 pounds of passengers, you are looking at a dually truck, or at least a stout 3500 series truck that will be cutting the weight thing very close.

    Stick to travel trailers until you are ready to upgrade the pickup to a dually. Or find a 3/4 ton suitable trailer. Titanium trailers by Glendale RV where balanced very well, so that the water tanks where located between the axles, and the hitch weight was fairly low, making them 3/4 ton towable!

    You might want to look at other brand fifth wheels too!

    Good luck!

    Fred.
  • One only needs to look at YOUR payload/rear axle numbers vs that 5vrs 'dry' pin weight to figure it out.

    THAT is a NO.

    You need to load up truck 'camp ready' and go get weighed.
    That payload number has to carry pin weight, hitch weight, passenger weights and all stuff inside truck (bags/packages/stuff etc.

    Weighed amp ready will give you a better idea on actual payload available.
    Then use 20% of a 5vrs GVWR to get an idea on what wet pin weight can be.
    Actual payload vs wet pin weight.

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