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- CavemanCharlieExplorer IIII did not have time to read all 5 pages of this thread, sorry.
I don't worry about things like water hoses. I have more important things to worry about, and I usually don't worry about them either.I use whatever hose is handy at my house.
Although,,, a brand new garden hose may impart a funny taste to the water until it has been used a few times. - rockhillmanorExplorerKISS Theory
I do no not drink the water out of the holding tank nor from a CG water connection so the hose used to get the water inside my RV is a moot point!
I full time so when parked it's for a longer time than the usually RV'er. I have found early in the morning the resident and seasonal RV'ers walk their dogs up and down the camping RV section. God forbid they walk their dogs in their own area. :(
I have sat and watched time and time again and at various CG's people walking their dogs and allowing them to "pee on the water connections" in the RV section.
So those of you who unknowingly pull in for the weekend? BLEACH, BLEACH those water connections!! :B - down_homeExplorer II
badsix wrote:
this lead thing is hysterical. look around were you live are there any homes built say from mid 70s and older. they probably all have copper and brass lines and fittings and soldered with real lead solder. millions of people lived in these homes with no ill effects from lead poisoning.
Jay D.
If you have lime or calcium in your water you are safer. Softened water in lead in pipes and fittings; you will get a good dose of lead etc and the lead will erode over a shorter time. - down_homeExplorer II
free radical wrote:
romore wrote:
The white hose is specifically designed for potable water, a garden hose can contain impurities and leave a taste. Besides, you don't want to accidently use the one for rinsing the waste tanks.
Why not use CLEAR see thru water hose,,
would make it easy to see that its clean inside..
:B
You can buy them or could at some RV rallies we've seen them set up to make any length clear hose with reinforcement and stainless or brass ends.
I would not have one, from the coach, nor a thin translucent white hose, from the water supply, especially in bright sun light or any exposure or for any length of time. Algae and bugs grow because of the sun, on the walls of the cheap vinyl. I'm sure you've seen some with a brownish coating inside of the hose.
As to lead in hoses, lead is a common ingredient in many rubber and plastics. As to hoses in particular, I don't know. - BCSnobExplorerWhether or not copper and lead will leach into the drinking water is dependent upon the pH if the water. This explains why old copper pipes with lead solder may not be an issue. This was exactly the Iissue for a Flint.
Our first house had well water with pH ranging from 5 to 6; fixtures had blue water stains. Had a water conditioner installed which increased the pH and the stains didn’t return.
The amount of leaching of contaminants from a hose into the water will be dependent upon solubility into the water, the kinetics (rate) of the of the leaching process, and the exposure time of the water to the hose. - badsixExplorerthis lead thing is hysterical. look around were you live are there any homes built say from mid 70s and older. they probably all have copper and brass lines and fittings and soldered with real lead solder. millions of people lived in these homes with no ill effects from lead poisoning.
Jay D. - DrewEExplorer II
Optimistic Paranoid wrote:
free radical wrote:
Lead from a plastic water hose??
Sounds like Fake news to me...
The problem is the 'brass' fittings. While the dictionary defines brass as an alloy of copper and zinc, in fact lead is often also included to improve machinability. And it can leach into drinking water at a rate higher than Federal safety standards allow. See:
Lead Surprisingly Still In Brass Plumbing
So long as the water is flowing, the amount of leeching is minimal. It's when water sits in the fitting that worry may be warranted. For that reason, rinsing out the hose before filling the tank is actually a very reasonable precaution to take to avoid lead (and whatever other nasty chemicals may similarly leech out of your particular hose).
In the case of lead, how much leeches out also depends on the quality of one's water, such as whether or not it tends towards acidic. - Optimistic_ParaExplorer
free radical wrote:
Lead from a plastic water hose??
Sounds like Fake news to me...
The problem is the 'brass' fittings. While the dictionary defines brass as an alloy of copper and zinc, in fact lead is often also included to improve machinability. And it can leach into drinking water at a rate higher than Federal safety standards allow. See:
Lead Surprisingly Still In Brass Plumbing - D_E_BishopExplorer
free radical wrote:
rockhillmanor wrote:
Water Hoses labeled for 'safe' drinking are supposed to be lower in lead than garden hoses. Look for hoses labeled 100% free from toxic chemicals commonly found in garden hoses, such as lead, BPA, or phthalates (plasticizers).
BUT, note that unfortunately the 'cheap china connections' they put on most of these safe water drinking hoses are usually loaded with lead. I.E. camco RV hose.:R
Here is e erything you ever wanted to know about water hoses and then some!
Here is the link of tested hoses.... the best and the worst. Chose your weapon to beat the wonderful world of chemicals! :C
https://saferchemicals.org/newsroom/new-study-rates-best-and-worst-garden-hoses/
Lead from a plastic water hose??
Sounds like Fake news to me...
Where did they get the water from in that test,,Flint MIchigan maybe?
I found several kind of funny comments in that study but that's another post, I did take physics in both high school and college, one subject we discussed was the "Brownian Theory of Motion". You know the one where you discuss that atoms and, therefore, molecules are constantly in motion. :h The most common quote is one atom of gold on one end of a ingot of lead will eventually be found on the other end. "EVENTUALLY, not instantly.
There have been multiple articles and hundreds of mentions here about flushing the hose with tap water before directing the water into the tank, thereby, rinsing out any foreign thingys.:S
So what were the standards of use employed by this (to me totally unknown and not certified) testing company?:?
I've got more popcorn if anyone is interested.:B - badsixExplorerwe bought one of the collapsible hoses from Camping World, says for drinking water. its 25 ft. and rolls up into a 12x12x6 plastic box for storage. I haven't used it yet but we have some around the house and they don't have any rubber taste. if it works ok I may buy another so i'll have 50ft. if I need it. they are much easier to store then the 25 or 50 ft. white plastic hoses.
Jay D.
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