Dont drive with lots of cash

I’m Flat Broke

HadEnough wrote:
Is there a list of dangerous states we should remember not to visit?

Frankly, it's so widespread, that you'd never go anywhere. But here's a good article and list.

https://ij.org/report/policing-for-profit/grading-state-federal-civil-forfeiture-laws/

What a crock of **** that guy is spewing. As a retired Law Enforcement Officer I am very familiar with Civil Forfeiture or what we called Asset Forfeiture. Not once did I or anyone I worked with pull over a car for a minor traffic infraction and then seize a wad of cash that the driver or one of the passengers had on them and then say "have a nice day!" and let them drive off. There's a whole lot more to that story. That youtube guy is only telling a very small part of a story to have his audience get riled up and is nothing more than a hater of Law Enforcement. People love to hear stuff like this to justify in their own minds how their own actions are ok even though the rest of society says they're not. It always amazed me that people believe the theory that breaking the Law and getting caught can be justified because a dirty cop was exposed in the news a couple of years ago. Therefore all cops are dirty. Therefore their illegal actions should go unpunished. There are thousands of people that think this exact way and guys like this youtube person rely on them to remain relevant online.

There are police and there are police. and there is a law (RICO Racketeering Influenced Criminal Organization) or set of laws which says if you have "Ill Gotten Gains" (Money obtained from Criminal activities) it belongs to the Police.

Do not steal: The government hates the competition (Bumper sticker on the car of a Police Lab Technician I happen to know).

I have had cases of a kid carrying way more money than he logically should have had when stopped by Michigan State Police and they ask me to verify it was legit. Well he'd been saving his nickles for a long time so as to buy a used car and that was the cash payment. 100% legit.. He went on his way fully funded.

I've had cases were the troopers knew it was drug money.. They went on their way back to their bosses and I'm sure to the ocean (Way out and no boat) cash free. as thousands of dollars went to forfiture.

One District Attorney conducted a class in how to take personal property under forfeiture EVEN IF THERE IS NO SUSPICION OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY .
(Lost reelection)

Some cities in at least one state (I will not say which here as it could spark political discussions) basicaly run on forfiture money. EVEN if it's not criminal.

So yes. Police can be that crooked.

Don't matter to me, I live on plastic. I might have 10 bucks in my pocket and that is unusual. All about cash rewards and frequent flyer miles.

Unfortunately this is becoming more and more common. Police stealing from the public. eventually they will be able to seize you house and money in the bank if they are left to do what they want!

They are going to hit the wrong person and you will see big changes. until then its only lucrative for them to keep it up!

troubledwaters wrote:

LarryJM wrote:
I just find it sad to see someone pulling out a credit card when buying a cup of coffee or a snack somewhere, but that's just me I guess. What's even more disturbing is when you try and pay cash for something simple and the salesperson has trouble giving you change.Larry

Maybe it isn't a credit card, maybe it's a debit card. Debit card is the same as cash but you don't have to carry hundreds of dollars around. We use one all the time. Lot's easier to deal with especially if you ever lose it.

Its 2018 who still carries cash? lol

aside from buying a hotdog from a hotdog stand or maybe parking for an event, what do you need cash for on a day to day basis? Vending machines take a card down. Seems more secure. If i lose cash im out that money. if i lose my card i just call and get a new one.

LarryJM wrote:
I just find it sad to see someone pulling out a credit card when buying a cup of coffee or a snack somewhere, but that's just me I guess. What's even more disturbing is when you try and pay cash for something simple and the salesperson has trouble giving you change.Larry

Maybe it isn't a credit card, maybe it's a debit card. Debit card is the same as cash but you don't have to carry hundreds of dollars around. We use one all the time. Lot's easier to deal with especially if you ever lose it.

Dealt with Civil Forfeiture for many years, his video is not that accurate.

ItsyRV wrote:

old guy wrote:
you can always go to an ATM and get small amounts of cash if you need to

Civil Forfeiture is not only limited to cash; they can take your RV and all its contents as well. The concern is there are still many states where court orders or convictions still are not required. Law Enforcement simply has to belive your RV is being use in or is the product of illegal activity and you may find yourself standing on the side of the road. Sadly, regardless how many bogus forfeitures that occur, many will still support unregulated seizures by justifying it in the name of the war on drugs or terrorism.

True and this makes the entire subject of this thread pretty much meaningless. Loosing some cash could be the least of one's concerns. I for one does like cash and carry quite a bit when on road trips.

I just find it sad to see someone pulling out a credit card when buying a cup of coffee or a snack somewhere, but that's just me I guess. What's even more disturbing is when you try and pay cash for something simple and the salesperson has trouble giving you change:E

Larry