E-Z Lube Axles

mosseater wrote:
Larry's not posting because he specifically has anything against EZ Lube, He's posting because he's right.

Lack of failure is idicative of luck, not good, safe maintenance. He set the nail on that last one, and still folks are happy in their ignorance. He's pretty stubborn, but he'll likely give up soon. If you haven't gotten it by now, you never will.

OH, and BTW, I don't specifically have anything against Super Lube, Lippert's iteration of the same system. I've been down the same road and I now understand. For those still confused, look up the word "gimmmick". One company started it, and the rest piled on in hopes of competitively duping people with similar poor maintenance practices. You're kidding yourself.

Thank you and you are correct ... I'm not really trying to change folks minds that have already made them up, but MANY read threads like this that are still on the fence and when I see what I feel is misinformation or less than full disclosure I want to make sure the opposing or what I feel is the CORRECT INFORMATION is presented and defended for their benefit in the hopes they make a more sound and considered decision based on FACTS and not just opinions, feelings and half truths.

If folks want to use the E-Z lube or similiar other manufacturer's system I have no problem with that, but they should understand it IS NOT SAVING THEM TIME OR $$$ and while I might personally consider it basically a waste of time and good grease that is a decision ultimately to be made by each individual. Now using them in lieu of what I consider sound maintenance practices like the gent that has not done a normal tear down and inspection for over 8 years and 20K miles is another topic and he is basically IMO not saving time and $$$ by using the E-Z lube feature, but saving money by not following the normal recommended or even prudent maintenance practices and in this case I would say not even following a prudent and reasonably modified maintenance practice. In the particulars of his case I would not be opposed to going 20K between normal axle maintenance, but I think 8 years is too long. Because of the way many of us use our TTs (i.e. long periods on non use like months at a time) time is more of a governing factor than miles in how long one could go between proper axle/brake maintenance practices. 30 years ago many low end greases almost all dino only based suffered from separation and moisture absorption (not from water, but just humidity) and needed to be changed more often. With the more common availability of higher temp, Semi and Full Synthetic greases especially those that are Moly fortified today's greases are very robust and can IMO last much longer before needing servicing. As I said in a prior post I have no problem going 3 to 5 years between axle/brake maintenance or like 25K miles which ever happens first with a big caveat in that one should be doing a quality hand bearing pack (this is another subject that for me has definite requirements on how to do this properly) using a quality Semi or Full Synthethic Hi Temp grease and that MUST HAVE be Moly fortified. This modified maintenance practice just described is something I have personally developed basee on doing more brake/axle tear downs and bearing packing on my last trailer than I can think of that I had for over 25 years and put over 100K miles on during that time without a single bearing issue or replacement. Thus it wasn't a short term study/service history, but a really long term maintenance program.

I'll never give up since you correctly assessed and I pled guilty on the stubborness label, but will simply as the saying "GO AWAY" once I feel I have had my "DAY IN COURT" so to speak and feel the rest is properly left in the hands of the JURY.

Now where is a good "Stabilizer Jacks" or "Prevent the Movement" thread where I can get into one of my other favorite PET PEEVES and cause more hate and discontent among those I think are either being duped or misinformed on what is really going on:B

I think even this has been a good thread in that it has highlighted or at shone the light at little bettewr on how just a few "SQUIRTS" on an E-Z lube axle might not be doing what one thought, the attention needed to prevent grease seal issues, and just how much extra grease is used/needed in filling that hub void between the bearings to even get the E-Z lube feature to function like it was designed.

Larry