electric PU that can tow 11,000lbs

Rivian R1T first impressions and hidden features (Bjørn Nyland)


Tons more on youtube

Once again we have the least important number being touted by a manufacturer, nothing but brainless marketing trying to impress with BS.

This truck will not be able to pull a travel trailer across the USA regardless of what its tow capacity is,

FWIW, this is a brand new company staffed with entry level, low paid engineers from local colleges building something no one is even asking for, prolly not going to end too well.

mowermech wrote:
My question was about the range at 20 below zero F, with cabin heat, defrost, lights, stereo, wipers, etc. operating.
I would really hate to be on U.S. Highway 2 across Northern Montana ("the high-line"), in January, in a blizzard, at midnight, 50 miles from the nearest town and 5 to 10 miles from the nearest ranch house, finding myself stuck because the anticipated range didn't work.
Bummer, to say the least! Yes, it would be due to my own stupidity, not the least of which was taking the damfool EV on a long trip in that kind of weather!

Typically the vehicle is going to account for its own limitations in these conditions to reduce the estimated range. You will know in advance the amount of range reduction.

You also have the option to pre-condition the vehicle from your start point with heating the cabin and battery. This eliminates the huge drain on the battery during to first 20 miles to get you comfortable in a cold soaked vehicle. Assumes you are plugged in for the hour before you roll.

In the end (as it was in the beginning) electric trucks will show their worth but only in the applications they are designed for, the first commercial trucks were electric but cheap petroleum made them obsolete then GM came out with the EV1 back in 96' (who killed the electric car, a great show to catch) and after finding out they were a great success took them out of the customer's hands and scrapped them,,, oh well let's hear it for GM! I have a neighbor who he and his son's operate a small trucking outfit and he's all good-to-go when tesla puts out their new electric truck! We as snowbirds travel from Ontario to Florida and back every year and if I could get a 400 mile day in with an electric truck I'd be happy with that, as I understand it the average North American only drives 25+ miles per day so when you get down to it they are perfect for the application they are meant for and the fact that we're really doing something for our environment and for our grand kids' future is the icing on the cake! I applaud guys like Elon Musk and other's for bringing this to fruition and I'm looking forward to seeing these electric vehicles on the road and perhaps even driving one myself!

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free radical wrote:

mowermech wrote:
As with all electric vehicles, I need to know how far it will go at night, in a snowstorm, at 20 below zero, with lights, heat, defrost, wipers, etc. running full blast.
Of course, I also need to know how far it will go between charges in 105 degree heat, with air conditioning running.
Now, add a Travel Trailer with a GVW of 10,750 lbs. to the mix, plus 5 190 pound people and a couple hundred pounds of tools and miscellaneous.
NOW how far will it go on a full charge, and how long weill it take to fully re-charge it?
It is always easy to brag about how wonderful something is under ideal conditions, but what about in the real world where we all live, where the conditions are often (if not usually) less than ideal?

This is how Tesla car handles winter..

https://youtu.be/D2gmphV8IZQ

How Rivian truck will perform is anyones guess right now..

Id wait for Tesla truck,for one they have 11.000 Superchargers out there so going long distance is no problem and their tech is way ahead of anyone else..

Interesting video. However, keep in mind that the "severe cold" the narrator was describing is measured in Celsius, not Fahrenheit. His "20 below zero" is about 0 degrees F. Also, "wind chill" only affects bare skin; it has no effect on machinery.
My question was about the range at 20 below zero F, with cabin heat, defrost, lights, stereo, wipers, etc. operating.
I would really hate to be on U.S. Highway 2 across Northern Montana ("the high-line"), in January, in a blizzard, at midnight, 50 miles from the nearest town and 5 to 10 miles from the nearest ranch house, finding myself stuck because the anticipated range didn't work.
Bummer, to say the least! Yes, it would be due to my own stupidity, not the least of which was taking the damfool EV on a long trip in that kind of weather!

Beentherefixedthat wrote:
Deosn't anyone here read the papers? Or the Automotive Press?

A Class 8 Electric truck has been produced that will haul 80,000 lbs for 300 miles before recharge. ( It is still in development and not for sale right now)

The pickup and your TT is small change to this.

The naysayers and nabobs of negativity to say nothing of the Luddites among us hold us back and and continue to not understand the technology they are facing in the near future.

And my understanding from visiting a Tesla dealership if you recharge at their stations (which are proprietary) it's free...

"has been produced" Show me one for sale, or being driven, please.

"It's still in development" ok, you just contradicted yourself, you must be referring to the Tesla truck that's not even available - because that's the only one that currently claims 80,000 towing and a 300 mile range.

Also, they aren't doing the free supercharging for life anymore.

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LOL at your "nabobs of negativity". It's reality. When it's available, great. When/if they make an electric pickup truck, fantastic. Until then, they are "in development". I know they have prototypes, that's not the discussion.

I chuckled at your "the Luddites among us hold us back and and continue to not understand the technology they are facing in the near future." Everything costs money. Market demand needs to happen. I'll be thrilled when I can buy my promised Model 3 at a $35,000 point as Elon Musk originally stated. That should happen after all the tax credits go away...if we're lucky.

Beentherefixedthat wrote:
A Class 8 Electric truck has been produced that will haul 80,000 lbs for 300 miles before recharge. ( It is still in development and not for sale right now)

I've heard the flying car "is still in development and not for sale right now" too. It's called "vaporware" for a reason. It could certainly happen, but it hasn't happened yet.

MNGeeks61 wrote:

time2roll wrote:
Wait until someone finds out it get 70 MPGe empty and 30 towing.

/rolleyes

Also, it has unicorn farts.

you can't take this thing seriously. Tesla at least has had years of R&D and somewhat successful cars. This is the first I've heard of it, so I asked around the floor - the credit analysts haven't heard of it either.

Yes I would expect the Tesla pick-up to get even more economy.
Tesla vehicles currently get 85 to 130 MPGe.

BTW the vehicle is at the LA autoshow this week if you want to go kick the tires.

Deosn't anyone here read the papers? Or the Automotive Press?

A Class 8 Electric truck has been produced that will haul 80,000 lbs for 300 miles before recharge. ( It is still in development and not for sale right now)

The pickup and your TT is small change to this.

The naysayers and nabobs of negativity to say nothing of the Luddites among us hold us back and and continue to not understand the technology they are facing in the near future.

And my understanding from visiting a Tesla dealership if you recharge at their stations (which are proprietary) it's free...

The only things that run on batteries are golf carts and toys.