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Mar 23, 2015

Flat Towing a Chev Pickup

Just purchased a 2015 Thor Palazzo 35.1 and I would like to flat tow my 2013 Chev 4X4 LT pickup instead of having to buy something else. I have read instructions on mounting a Blue Ox baseplate and think maybe I can install myself. Am I fooling myself? Plan to use Ready Brake system towbar. I am relatively new to RVing. I traded in a 30 ft Forest River which I pulled with my truck.

Any comments on the installation would be appreciated.

Thanks Mike

19 Replies

  • Mike,

    I tow a 2015 Jeep unlimited behind my 35.1 Palazzo. Before the unlimited, last year I towed a 2 door wrangler. The one thing I just wanted to make you aware of is the theoretical towing capacity of the Palazzo is 10K lbs. However, the REAL tow capacity is much, much lower then that. Depending on your already loaded capacity you will be realistically in the 4000 - 6000 lb range. The only way you will know this is to properly weigh your Palazzo. When I towed the 2 door jeep I couldn't tell it was back there. However, when I hooked up the 4 door Sahara, I could most definitely tell I now have a toad.
  • The base plate can also be installed by your local independent auto repair shop. The instructions will probably indicate two hours of labor. I do not get under vehicles any longer. I keep copies of the owner manual pages for shifting to the tow position and back to normal readily available. The shift into neutral transfer case and esp back to normal may be accompanied by a clang noise in the transfer case, Symptomatic of most transfer cases I have been told. My 2012 gmc allows removing the key without locking the steering. A nice condition that avoids running down the battery or having to remove fuses.
  • Vic,
    The reason I say that about Ready Brake is this. MY system, the actuator in particular is worn out. I can literally push that actuator forward BY HAND! Needless to say, it's shot. Well, me being me, I tore that thing apart. Folks, there's noting scientific or miraculous about the inner guts of a Ready Brake.

    All there is, is spring, about 1.25" in diameter by about a couple of inches long. It's a pretty stout little spring. There's also a small, again, about 1.25" in diameter, little piston. That little piston has some tiny holes in it. And, it's got about three or four O-rings around it. That piston sits in a small bore. Inside that bore with the piston is a ounce or two or three of oil.

    So, as the actuator moves, due to your toad pushing on it, that spring and, the piston move forward. The piston is supposed to act as a shock. All that oil, is forced through the tiny holes, from one chamber to another. And, the spring, pushes it all back.

    But, as stated, mine is worn out. That makes for un-necessary brake action in the toad. Well, in all reality, all I needed from Ready Brake was the four O-rings and, maybe their oil, if it was something special.

    But, Noooooooooooo, they didn't want me doing this. THEY wanted me to package that 50 lb. actuator up and, send it all the way to them, so THEY could put the four O-rings in it and, replace the spring. Well, to say the least, that's ridiculous. I mean, I've got it apart, OBVIOUSLY I know how the system works, and, what's needed to bring it back to life. There's nothing complicated about this system. No adjustments, no settings, NOTHING that some high trained technician has to do that I can't do.

    So, my decision to walk away is my own. While it's a pretty good braking system for the money and, for the most part, about 99.999% of folks that use it are happy, including me for quite some time, I'm not all that happy with that much "slop" in the tow system anyways. There's plenty of movement, in multiple directions that I've never really been fond of.

    So, hence, I might be migrating over to the M&G system, especially since I've got an air braked coach which would make the that type of system work flawless. We'll see.

    Mike,
    This may have already been answered but, in case it hasn't, here's what to look for. I too have a KNOB that electronically controls the shifting of the transfer case. It has 2, AUTO, 4HIGH, 4LOW. The high and low are represented by arrows. But, what's not seen is an "N" for neutral. It's all the way on the right. On my truck, the parking brake is set, your feet have to be on the brake pedal, the trans must be in neutral and the engine running. Then and only then, you rotate that KNOB all the way counter-clock wise to the end of it's travel and hold it there for about, 5 seconds or so.

    At that time, the N will appear in RED. And, you'll see a message on the dash gauge that states: Stabilitrack is now off. From that point, you put the trans in park, release the parking brake and, shut off the engine and remove the key.

    Now, like I stated in my first post to here on this thread, go to YOUR owners manual and find all the sections that have to do with flat towing behind a motor home. You may have to flip some pages to get all the complete info for setup to tow. The reason I emphasize this is because there might be some differences in procedure for your model and year, as opposed to mine.

    But, that's the way it's basically supposed to be done. Good luck.
    Scott

    And, thanks to all for the nice comments on my work. As stated, it was actually a pretty simple job. I did it on our previous toad, an '11 Honda CRV EX-L AWD and, I had to tear off the whole front of the car to do the same thing, what a pain in the A$$.
    Scott

    On edit: I see that Don had sent the basic same instructions for finding neutral on the transfer case knob, while I was typing mine. Oh well, no biggie.
  • Mike.....I tow my 2012 Silverado 4 down. I did my own install of the Roadmaster brackets. Like Scott said, I've done 5 or 6 set ups and the truck was the easiest.

    Side Note: On your truck, the neutral position, for towing, is not visible on the knob. The truck needs to be running, shift into neutral and then turn the 4x4 selection knob clockwise all the way and hold it for about 6-10 seconds. The "N" will light up in red and your dash will say that your Stabilitrac has been turned off. I always double check that the truck doesn't shift into Drive or Reverse.
  • I would think you need to get transfer case in neutral to be able to tow 4 down as neutral will not be good enough
  • Thanks Scott, I think I will go ahead and order the plate,towbar and accessories. Wish ya didn't live all the way cross country. Maybe have a job for you. The MH has a Cummins engine on a Freightliner chassis. Tow weight is 10,000 lbs. By the way, my truck has a dial instead of a transfer case shifter. Do I leave in AUTO on the dial and put transmission in Neutral when towing? According to all I have read, there aren't any fuses to pull or anything like that. Nice rig you have. Thanks, Mike
  • FIRE UP wrote:
    Mike,
    Well Sir, first off, I don't know what chassis or, engine your Thor uses. I'm sure you've done your homework in determining your coaches max towing weight and, GCWR. I'll leave you to take care of that issue. Now, as for towing your truck. I'm not going to tell you all the prep work you need to do for getting ready to tow like so many people do, your owners manual spells it all out for you. Follow it to the letter.

    Now, as for installing the base plates to your truck. I've done a couple and, by far, this is one of the easiest installations of base plates you can get. You simply remove the tow hooks that the factory installed and, follow the instructions for the install of the new base plates. There was some drilling to allow for more bolts to be used in retaining the base plates than there were to retain the tow hooks. Now, it shouldn't be too much different than the install of them on our 2011 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4 Extended Cab.

    Part of the install is cutting any grill/plastic gravel shield etc. so there's clearance for the base plates to protrude out the front end. On mine, it was very minimal cutting of the plastic. I'm including pics of the base plates after installation. As you'll see, in mine, they look almost like the factory installed them.

    I too use the Ready Brake system but, have basically worn it out and, Ready Brake (NSA) is useless in sending me components to rebuild it so, I'm more than likely going to transition over to the M&G braking system. But, that's another matter.

    Anyway, if you've got any questions on this installation, please be sure and ask. Be glad to assist. Good luck. Oh, by the way, I also did all the wiring for toad lights. I utilized my stock truck tail lights as toad lights. It works flawless. Done that for about 11 toads now. NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES DOING IT THAT WAY!!!
    Scott







    Now that is outstanding work. Living next door to you sure wouldn't be a hardship! You should turn Pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I am however curious about your Ready Brake comment. I was under the impression their customer service was exemplary. I am NOT in any way involved/related to Ready Brake.
    Vic
  • Mike,
    Well Sir, first off, I don't know what chassis or, engine your Thor uses. I'm sure you've done your homework in determining your coaches max towing weight and, GCWR. I'll leave you to take care of that issue. Now, as for towing your truck. I'm not going to tell you all the prep work you need to do for getting ready to tow like so many people do, your owners manual spells it all out for you. Follow it to the letter.

    Now, as for installing the base plates to your truck. I've done a couple and, by far, this is one of the easiest installations of base plates you can get. You simply remove the tow hooks that the factory installed and, follow the instructions for the install of the new base plates. There was some drilling to allow for more bolts to be used in retaining the base plates than there were to retain the tow hooks. Now, it shouldn't be too much different than the install of them on our 2011 GMC Sierra 1500 4x4 Extended Cab.

    Part of the install is cutting any grill/plastic gravel shield etc. so there's clearance for the base plates to protrude out the front end. On mine, it was very minimal cutting of the plastic. I'm including pics of the base plates after installation. As you'll see, in mine, they look almost like the factory installed them.

    I too use the Ready Brake system but, have basically worn it out and, Ready Brake (NSA) is useless in sending me components to rebuild it so, I'm more than likely going to transition over to the M&G braking system. But, that's another matter.

    Anyway, if you've got any questions on this installation, please be sure and ask. Be glad to assist. Good luck. Oh, by the way, I also did all the wiring for toad lights. I utilized my stock truck tail lights as toad lights. It works flawless. Done that for about 11 toads now. NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES DOING IT THAT WAY!!!
    Scott





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