Goodyear Marathons Made in China?

Jerem0621 and all,

Thank you for your help. I am having a set of Maxxis installed on my TT on Saturday.

Happy trails,

Mike

Francesca Knowles wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:

In fact I read the entire NHTSA primer on pneumatic tires (all 707 pages)and the accepted wisdom is that degradation occurs faster after 5 years but the recommendation is still to inspect them regularly, keep them inflated to the proper level, and replace at the first signs of aging issues.

A lot of tire degradation happens inside the tire, and since I don't have X-ray vision I replace my trailer tires on a time basis, and a very conservative one at that. Between three and five years, tops, and never more than thirty thousand miles.

Ah, but there are other recommendations to address that as well and those issues are a result of abuse but I will not suppose I could possibly quote all 707 pages. You can educate yourself or swap tires every 5 years, 3 years, or any interval you choose. I will say tires are way more complex than I ever dreamed and the technology has progressed immensely over the years and there is real science behind them. The breakdown occurs in quality control inspections and routines as many tires have anomalies in them that will not affect their durability and service life. Anomalies that do affect these issues should be viewed as defects and not be sold. I think the Chinese have a quality control issue that Thailand has conquered.

Francesca Knowles wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:

In fact I read the entire NHTSA primer on pneumatic tires (all 707 pages)and the accepted wisdom is that degradation occurs faster after 5 years but the recommendation is still to inspect them regularly, keep them inflated to the proper level, and replace at the first signs of aging issues.

A lot of tire degradation happens inside the tire, and since I don't have X-ray vision I replace my trailer tires on a time basis, and a very conservative one at that. Between three and five years, tops, and never more than thirty thousand miles.

+1 You cannot see inside of the tire. They should be replaced after 5 years...even if they are the SUPER "Mx" brand.

Time and the elements weaken a trailer tire.
– 3 to 5 years is the average life expectancy of a trailer tire,regardless of mileage.
– It is estimated that in approximately three years, roughly one-third of a tire's strength is gone
– After three years, depending upon storage and conditions of usage, consider replacing trailer tires even if they have tread depth remaining.

– After five years, trailer tires should be replaced in all cases

Per Carlisle Tire and Rubber ST website.

Goodyear as all tire makers change their web add pages on occasion. They also had a 3-5 years for the Marathon but I see that and other info is gone into cyber space from their new web pages adds.

fla-gypsy wrote:

In fact I read the entire NHTSA primer on pneumatic tires (all 707 pages)and the accepted wisdom is that degradation occurs faster after 5 years but the recommendation is still to inspect them regularly, keep them inflated to the proper level, and replace at the first signs of aging issues.

A lot of tire degradation happens inside the tire, and since I don't have X-ray vision I replace my trailer tires on a time basis, and a very conservative one at that. Between three and five years, tops, and never more than thirty thousand miles.

fla-gypsy wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:
I put Maxxis brand M8008D ST tires on my 10k GVWR travel trailer in 2007 after the OE Chinese made Duro-bombs disintegrated in less than two years. The Maxxis ST's are still on there, look great, and are in excellent condition. The logical conclusion is the Thai made Maxxis tires are better than the Chinese made Duro's. Anecdotal evidence?, I think not.

After 5 years those tires need to come off....I don't care who makes them.

Please provide information or evidence from Maxxis tires that indicate they cannot be used beyond 5 years.

It's called best practice-

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTrailerTireFacts.dos

Or, maybe Maxxis tires ARE SO GOOD (made with special compounds NOBODY ELSE USES) that you don't have to follow industry suggestions.

I have read everything Maxxis has published on their ST tires and there is no such recommendation.

In fact I read the entire NHTSA primer on pneumatic tires (all 707 pages)and the accepted wisdom is that degradation occurs faster after 5 years but the recommendation is still to inspect them regularly, keep them inflated to the proper level, and replace at the first signs of aging issues.

If you dont mind running Bias Ply tires call a local Goodyear store and ask about the HMG 2020 tire. Its a 65psi D rated, 2040# tire made in Canada that was designed and built for U-Haul. Some even have U-Haul on the sidewalls. Most any Goodyear store can get them if you ask for that specific model.

I need new tires in that same size and am debating between those and the Maxxis. The Kuhmo's are not available around me quickly and the costs were much much higher.

I have a set of Maxxis tires on my TT right now. I assure you, they are just tires. They are well made but they are not magical. I had one of them pick up a screw and had to have it repaired.

No worries though, the are very good tires. I prefer them over China Bombs any day of the week. I wish they were made in the USA but the QC seems to be there in the Taiwan factory.

I will run them until they show signs of separation or bands breaking in the tires. 5 years or 8.. I am not sure. However long they last.

Thanks!

CKNSLS wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:

CKNSLS wrote:

fla-gypsy wrote:
I put Maxxis brand M8008D ST tires on my 10k GVWR travel trailer in 2007 after the OE Chinese made Duro-bombs disintegrated in less than two years. The Maxxis ST's are still on there, look great, and are in excellent condition. The logical conclusion is the Thai made Maxxis tires are better than the Chinese made Duro's. Anecdotal evidence?, I think not.

After 5 years those tires need to come off....I don't care who makes them.

Please provide information or evidence from Maxxis tires that indicate they cannot be used beyond 5 years.

It's called best practice-

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoTrailerTireFacts.dos

Or, maybe Maxxis tires ARE SO GOOD (made with special compounds NOBODY ELSE USES) that you don't have to follow industry suggestions.

I have read everything Maxxis has published on their ST tires and there is no such recommendation.

robsouth wrote:
Maxxis are, I'm sure, fine tires. I had them on a boat trailer (boat and trailer weight about 3500 lbs) and had a problem with both of them with tread separation. I have read so much about the "China bombs" being made by many different manufacturers. My experience: On the last 3 campers I have owned, ( 2 TT's and one Fifth wheel) I had Goodyear Marathons on each of them for about 4 years before trading trailers. My current trailer is the 3rd of them with Goodyear Marathons (entering the 5th year now) and I have had absolutely zero problems with any of them. Explain that to me please.

x2. Just traded our TT in on a 5'er. TT had USA GY Marathons with 10,000 miles on them and were good for another year (3-4,000). New 5'er came with China GY Marathons. Same exact tire and size. I'm running them till they wear out. Another thing is on neither unit was I close to the max load for the tires. I always ran them at 65 psi and never ran over 65mph. We'll okay sometimes:). It also doesn't reach 90-100deg for extended periods here in the PNW, so they run cooler IMO.