My 2011 Ecoboost F150XLT came with 2 ply ( 4 ply max )Goodyear Wrangler tires and a tow package. Anyone else see an issue here? With all the weight distribution setup and anti sway I still couldn't keep the truck and TT straight. Felt like I had a load of topsoil in the 5.5ft bed as I was going down the road! Can't wait to get my 10 ply Nitto Terra Grapplers again. Again this is my opinion......and yes proper inflation and tongue weight setup.Thanks and God Bless you for your thoughts.Phil

Are they 'P' class or next higher 'LT' class?I'm not a fan of them, but the tires may not be this only issuewhat PSI are they aired up to? and what it he sidewall listed max PSI?What it the spec's of the trailer?Is the trailer tongue level at it's highest pointing or slightly down? If 'up'then of course and almost no matter what tires and WD setup you haveNeed much more information

Exactly what Wranglers are they? and yes LT or P? oem?

They are indeed a "P" series tire, as they are the same tires as on my truck. They are certainly not ideal, but they do not cause the severity of the problems you are describing, in my opinion...

My Chevy Silverado came with P series Bridgestone's. I find my truck is not as rigid as I would like it to be compared to my last set-up with LT tires. I really want to replace them, but have a tough time coughing up the $1200+ on a new truck.Same situation, I have the max tow package and the truck still comes with P series tires. I didn't even have LT tires as an option when I bought it unless I upgraded to the 3/4 ton model.

There's actually such a thing as "2 ply tires" for use on motor vehicles???

Goodyear Wrangler's are a joke.........In My Opinion

38 Replies

2013zoeyzinger
Explorer
Dec 25, 2013
Why oh why did it have to snow here on L.I. N.Y.?? Icy conditions better be gone by 10 a.m. tomorrow morning. I'm outta here to Va then Tenn!

Merry Christmas all!

Phil
jerem0621
Explorer II
Dec 24, 2013
On my half ton I had Coopers that had a max of 44 psi.... IIRC the tires were rated for 2300-2500 lbs each. The GRAWR was 3500 .... I never had a problem towing with them at all. Aired up to 44 psi they were stable.
goducks10
Explorer
Dec 24, 2013
dodge guy wrote:
If anyone is going to be towing/hauling anything sizeable they should at least have an LT series tire. On a traditional 1/2 ton a "C" rated tire is more than enough.

Good point. From my personal experience using D's on an 08 and E's on a 10, there's really not much difference in ride or handling. Got a killer deal on the E's or would've got the D's.
D's were Coopers and the E's were Michelins.
dodge_guy
Explorer II
Dec 24, 2013
If anyone is going to be towing/hauling anything sizeable they should at least have an LT series tire. On a traditional 1/2 ton a "C" rated tire is more than enough.
2013zoeyzinger
Explorer
Dec 24, 2013
Honestly, being a used vehicle and that fact that I didn't know ( my ignorance ) the tires couldn't handle it, I take 50% blame.

I'm good now.

Phil
schlep1967
Nomad
Dec 24, 2013
2013zoeyzinger wrote:
Ok sorry for bashing ALL Goodyears. They are SR-A standard load 4 ply tires. A rated. What else am I looking for on them? And I have been on the scales already. I'm not new to the TT towing circuit. Just don't get why they put these tires on a vehicle that has a tow package when they aren't rated for towing. 44lbs psi as well.

Thanks.

Phil

If I bought a truck with a towing package and it came with tires rated for less than the "package" says it is designed for I would be going back to the dealer and getting proper tires to match the package rating, for free. Just mention the danger they put your family in by selling you a truck advertised as being able to handle a certain load with tires that could fail at that load.
2013zoeyzinger
Explorer
Dec 24, 2013
Thought I'd come back once again to apologize to all for dissing every Wrangler. I did not mean it. It was my opinion on steroids. I did however get my Nittos and I am happy. Once again I'm sorry.

Merry Christmas .

Phil
ford_coupe
Explorer
Sep 15, 2013
hybrid hunter: In the past I've always used goodyear tire until this experiance. Dealer told me he didn't think I would like the goodyears,but I didn;t listen. He said goodyear had a lot of trouble w/wranglers being unstable. Love the michelin ltx m& s even put them on my 5'er. wranglers were lt 10 ply. michelin's are lt-10 ply also.Years ago when I was working I used to put over 100,000 miles on goodyear wranglers. not any more.
2013zoeyzinger
Explorer
Sep 13, 2013
Thanks for all the advice guys ( and girls ? )

Phil
93Cobra2771
Explorer
Sep 10, 2013
CKNSLS wrote:
93Cobra2771 wrote:
Unfortunately, the trend for 1/2tons is a pmetric tire for almost all duties. They give a softer ride, give better mpg through lighter weight, etc.

If you go Max tow, they do upgrade the tires.

You can also spec different tires if you order your truck. However, almost all on the lot have pmetrics.

Never had issues with "P" rated tires. I just air them up to max when towing and use them until they wear out. Let's not forget the tow rating the manufacturer gives the truck has to be with the same tires that come on the truck when new.

Agree 100%. And I'm still using the exact p tire on mine as well.