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Ron_Gratz
Feb 15, 2016Explorer
LarryJM wrote:Larry, you are going to have to help me understand what you are saying.
Again you also need to take all this up with those clearly agreeing with me to clarify for your better understanding if you care to learn what I think is your misreading of such things as this cargo before or after the WDH is engaged, etc.
I have provided clearly that TONGUE WT as it pretains to WDH and I believe the receiver capacities/specs includes CARGO ADDED after the TV REAR AXLE ... PERIOD.
Can you please provide some straight answers to my questions which follow your statements?
LarryJM wrote:
---Hook up your trailer run across the scales and then have someone stand on your rear bumper and do a second run across the scales and all your weights including those on the TT axles will change. That can only happen if the "TONGUE WEIGHT" has changed unless you have adjusted your WDH system.
When the load on the TT axles increases -- will the downward vertical load applied to the receiver a) increase, b) decrease, or c) stay the same? Why?
LarryJM wrote:I understand that "extra cargo wt." is weight which is added to the rear of the TV after the WDH is adjusted.And all I'm saying is that this additional load should and can be considered "TONGUE WEIGHT" since that is what the WDH is designed to do and that is to DISTRIBUTE TONGUE WT. which in this case included that extra cargo wt. that constructively appears at the ball/coupler position.
Can you please explain what you mean by "that extra cargo wt. that constructively appears at the ball/coupler position"?
LarryJM wrote:Do you believe that when the rear of the TV is forced down by adding cargo after WD is applied, the lowering of the rear of the TV and front of the TT will cause the load on the WD bars to increase?
---Having extra wt show up on the TT axles w/o physically adding any wt to the TT can only come from what we typically classify as tongue wt that is being redistributed by the WDH to the various axles.---
Do you believe that increasing the load on the WD bars will result in a torque which causes the downward force on the TT's axles to increase without actually adding any weight (mass) to the TT?
Do you believe that increasing the downward force on the TT's axles without increasing the weight (mass) of the TT must be accompanied by a reduction in the vertical force acting on the TV's receiver?
LarryJM wrote:Actually, I believe that "cargo" is what is added both before and after the WDH is adjusted -- and all of it is part of the TV's payload.
---You may think that the the cargo is not what is added after the WDH is adjusted, but if you read carefully the context that the quotes I gave from etrailer and Cequent from that is IMO not the case.---
When cargo is added after the WDH is adjusted -- will the downward vertical force applied to the receiver a) increase, b) decrease, or c) stay the same? Why?
Ron
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