Illegal GPS mounting

donn0128 wrote:
Yea, illegal anywhere on the windshield in CA too.

Not so. As long as it is close to the dashboard and does not interfer with the driver's view of the road it can be on the dashboard. The drivers who put the GPS halfway up the windshield directly if front of them are illegal.

4aSong wrote:
Just another day with another Law? Don't you just love it.

Yes.

Actually a very logical & practical law.

Be informed and you won't have problems.

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GoPackGo wrote:
I agree with Pitch. That paragraph seems to talk about how a vehicle is loaded or the number of people packed into the front seat.

You can't ignore the unbolded portion - 'or when there are in the front seat such number of persons' as that goes to the heart of the paragraph.

I don't believe this paragraph has anything to do with a windshield mounted GPS. Not saying the mounting of a GPS isn't addressed in a different section - but it ain't in this one.

I'm not ignoring it, I simply removed it to make him understand that it is different than the number of persons in the front seat... hence the OR.

I have a friend who is a NYPD officer. That charge is used for GPS and has been upheld in court. I really don't care if you or Pitch agree. I know that it is illegal and want to share my knowledge with others to save them a ticket. Personally, my wife is my navigator when we pull the trailer so it doesn't affect me. When I don't have her, I listen to the voice.

Do what you want. I'd rather spend that $60 on 2 nights camping than provide it to the State of New York.

More NY law--Vehicle laws

From section 12a-"No person
shall drive any motor vehicle with any sign or other nontransparent
material other than a certificate or paper required to be displayed by
law upon the front windshield or the sidewings or side windows on either
side forward of or adjacent to the operator's seat."

I agree with Pitch. That paragraph seems to talk about how a vehicle is loaded or the number of people packed into the front seat.

You can't ignore the unbolded portion - 'or when there are in the front seat such number of persons' as that goes to the heart of the paragraph.

I don't believe this paragraph has anything to do with a windshield mounted GPS. Not saying the mounting of a GPS isn't addressed in a different section - but it ain't in this one.

pitch wrote:
spoon you edited the sentence to make it more closely align with what you want it to say. That section prohibits your girl friend from sitting with her back against the door or on your lap. Says nothing about a windshield mounted device.
It is 100% legal where I work and live,so I will leave it wear it is. When out of state I will take my chances like I always have.

I provided the ENTIRE paragraph to you. You indicated you couldn't understand what I wrote. I took out all the periphery and wrote the portion that was relevant to your flawed argument. Read it again. Pay attention to the bolded words and the word "OR".

spoon059 wrote:
From New York State Vehicle Traffic Code;
S 1213. Obstruction to driver's view or driving mechanism. (a) No person shall drive a motor vehicle when it is so loaded, or when there are in the front seat such number of persons as to obstruct the view of the driver to the front or sides of the vehicle or as to interfere with the driver's control over the driving mechanism of the vehicle.

It simply cannot be loaded in such a manner that it obstructs the windshield... OR when there are too many people in the front seat. Not BOTH, one or the other is a violation of the law.

You could have one piece of cardboard loaded in your car. If it is laying down in the backseat, it isn't loaded in such a manner as to obstruct the windshield. Conversely, if you have that one piece of cardboard blocking the entire windshield, it is loaded in a manner to obstruct the windshield.

The law also makes no statement about how much of the windshield is allowed to be obstructed. It simply states that it CANNOT BE OBSTRUCTED.

Websters dictionary defines the word "obstruct" as such;
-to be in front of (something) : to make (something) difficult to see

A GPS unit mounted on your windshield that prevents you from seeing the out the window is an OBSTRUCTION OF YOUR VIEW. That is illegal in New York. It is a safety issue, something that is taken pretty seriously in traffic court.

Whether or not they enforce that law is something different. Just because you don't like the law doesn't make it any less valid or binding. I'm not sure why you are coming at me like I am wrong. Its the law in YOUR state. You can drive any way you see fit, with any obstruction you see fit. If you get pulled over and cited, that is YOUR fault. I am simply trying to correct the wrong information that you provided, so someone else doesn't mistakenly rely on your incorrect interpretation of the law and find themselves getting stopped and cited for having a windshield obstruction.

spoon you edited the sentence to make it more closely align with what you want it to say. That section prohibits your girl friend from sitting with her back against the door or on your lap. Says nothing about a windshield mounted device.
It is 100% legal where I work and live,so I will leave it wear it is. When out of state I will take my chances like I always have.

The EZPass folks here are VERY specific on how to mount the EZPass transponder.

As far as the OP I manufactured a bracket that allows me to mount the GPS/XM/Phone ect.. to the front of the dash, out of direct view of the windshield. Works like a champ. I think every thing is illegal in VA.

pitch wrote:
And by what stretch does that sentence have anything to do with windshield mounted GPS?

spoon059 wrote:
No person shall drive a motor vehicle when it is so loaded as to obstruct the view of the driver to the front or sides of the vehicle

Maybe this will make it easier to read. I took out the other portions of the law.

Very simple law. You can't have anything other than federally approved equipment (rear view mirrors or A pillars) on your windshield or side mirrors if it would in any way obstruct your vision to the front or side.

Your GPS unit mounted directly below the center rear view mirror would be in violation of that law. Don't fuss at me though, I didn't write the laws in New York, I am just pointing out the fact that just because there isn't a specific law about windshield mounted GPS units, it is still illegal if they block any portion of your field of view.

darsben wrote:
That is the usual reason the stop you for picayune ship.

What in the heck does the above mean?