K & N filters

Been thinking about getting a K&N filter for the truck. aside from not having to buy filters all the time, is it a good investment in your TV?

DE88ROX wrote:
Been thinking about getting a K&N filter for the truck. aside from not having to buy filters all the time, is it a good investment in your TV?

The quick answer is NO! It is a very bad investment for a modern TV! There will be those that come on here claiming no problems etc! No one uses them OEM on vehicles as they let in to much dirt and the oil can foul sensors.

This post will soon be followed by someone saying I do not know what I am talking about!!

Dodge sold me a K&N for my RAM back in 2001 and a year later withdrew their support of using that type of filter. These older engines have both a MAP sensor and IAT sensor that can be damaged by oil. New engines have even more sensors.

The Cummins diesels in my boat have Walker Airsep's which use K&N filters, so I know I bit about servicing them. Each engine has both a large intake filter and I smaller breather filter that have to be cleaned and re-oiled. This requires using K&N's special cleaner and oil! In marine use dust is not an issue and these are old mechanical engines without sensors that can be fouled.

And any time a filter requires to get a little dirty to increase its filtering ability, we should run the other direction. You have to find testing done by someone besides K&N to get a clean(ops clear) picture of the issues.

So do not do it!

Chris

Interesting article.....

htmlhttp://forums.nicoclub.com/debunking-the-k-n-myth-why-oem-is-better-t180100.html

banjo wrote:
Interesting article.....

htmlhttp://forums.nicoclub.com/debunking-the-k-n-myth-why-oem-is-better-t180100.html

Thank you banjo! Lets see what the K&N cheer leaders have to say about this testing.

Another interesting test would be to run on a dyno and see the HP and Torque differences.

Chris

banjo wrote:
Interesting article.....

htmlhttp://forums.nicoclub.com/debunking-the-k-n-myth-why-oem-is-better-t180100.html

I have seen this article…it is a good read. I do have a K&N on my motorcycle, b/c there is no MAF directly in the way.

On my TV, I would not have one, my MAF is literally 3 inches from the filter. Over oiling will cause problems with the sensor. I use Baldwin filters in mine (Made in the USA I believe) and much cheaper than the AC Delco filters.

Cale

Me Again wrote:

banjo wrote:
Interesting article.....

htmlhttp://forums.nicoclub.com/debunking-the-k-n-myth-why-oem-is-better-t180100.html

Thank you banjo! Lets see what the K&N cheer leaders have to say about this testing.

Another interesting test would be to run on a dyno and see the HP and Torque differences.

Chris

As a part time ATV service business I have seen my share of dirt in the intake from K(dirt suckers) & N "filters". NOT INTERNET HEARSAY. 90% if customers will go back to OEM after hearing the truth. Those that dont get extra charge for cleaning and oiling their KN "filters.
I do have at lest 4 reports on there inefficiency but will not post them as it always seem to fall on deaf ears. If you want to read them do a search. Oh, forgot about internet hearsay. LOL

AO_hitech wrote:
I've never understood why, especially on this forum, that when someone asks where to get something so many chime in with "you don't want that". :E

In this case, Because it's true.

dodge guy wrote:
They should be making one soon. do you have a Class A or C? It is an excellent product that works great. I`ve had mine now for 50k miles! and I have/had one on all my previous vehicles. never have and issue with the MAF sensor or dirt entering the intake. lot`s of people comment on it without knowing how they work or how to use them!

Mine is a class "A".

Me Again wrote:

DE88ROX wrote:
Been thinking about getting a K&N filter for the truck. aside from not having to buy filters all the time, is it a good investment in your TV?

The quick answer is NO! It is a very bad investment for a modern TV! There will be those that come on here claiming no problems etc! No one uses them OEM on vehicles as they let in to much dirt and the oil can foul sensors.

This post will soon be followed by someone saying I do not know what I am talking about!!

Dodge sold me a K&N for my RAM back in 2001 and a year later withdrew their support of using that type of filter. These older engines have both a MAP sensor and IAT sensor that can be damaged by oil. New engines have even more sensors.

The Cummins diesels in my boat have Walker Airsep's which use K&N filters, so I know I bit about servicing them. Each engine has both a large intake filter and I smaller breather filter that have to be cleaned and re-oiled. This requires using K&N's special cleaner and oil! In marine use dust is not an issue and these are old mechanical engines without sensors that can be fouled.

And any time a filter requires to get a little dirty to increase its filtering ability, we should run the other direction. You have to find testing done by someone besides K&N to get a clean(ops clear) picture of the issues.

So do not do it!

Chris

Thanks. I think ill save my money.

The only thing I see bashed more than K&N Filters is Consumer Reports.