SCVJeff, not to change the subject but, knowing your live up North from us, are you near the fire? We ate out at one of the trendy restaurants here in ER last night and it was like we had a few snow flurries the ash was so thick.
I assume you are actually in SCV to the West of the fire and not in the Aqua Dulce area but thought I check.
More in line with the direction this thread has taken, I got to thinking about all the CA Bashing on here and it is kind of comical. I did a little research on facts presented here and with the exception of the AG inspections, you can find several states that have the same or bigger problems as does CA. Pick a complaint and Google it in the context of "What State Has..." and you will find someplace worse than here.
I am still upset by being called a communist, we had dinner last night with a friend from a former Communist Block Country and she loves CA. She follows our travels and can't wait to follow behind us to our favorite spots with her friends visiting from home. She feels our State is spectacular and people who live here are so happy and carefree. I guess it is a matter of life experiences and where you were raised.